Is Cal***gie gonna fight Lacy or what?

[repsa]

They're new, fought all nobodies so far. Can't determine anything by their records. They are prospects, both showing promise. That being said, Codrington has a very good style, a more cutie style, but he has power too.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Neither one of them have fougnt anybody to prove what class fighters they are, Calzaghe has a padded record, atleast Lacy is lookin for a good fight, he is only 20-0 or something like that, even thought he is still green, i respect him allot for challenging the best in the division.

C'mon that's a bit unfair! Calzaghe has made 16 defences of his WBO belt... And he has definatly fought some good fighters!

Mario Veit, Twice Only ever lost to Calzaghe.
Byron Mitchell, The WBA super-middleweight champion.
Charles Brewer, The IBF super-middleweight champion.
Richie Woodall, The WBC super-middleweight champion.
Omar Sheika, Just stretched Lacy the distance, Calzaghe beat in 5 rounds - 5 years ago. Sheika's beaten loadsa fighters like Glen Johnson etc.
Robin Reid, The WBC super-middleweight Champion
Chris Eubank, The great! Chris Eubank...

And Joe's made all those mandatories... There's not that much difference between Joe Calzaghe and Bernard Hopkins career's. (Difference being Bernard is American and so when he makes mandatories against Morrad Hakker/Carl Daniels/Robert Allen it's quite acceptable).

The difference between Bernard and Joe is that Joe only fights guy's in HIS weight class where as Bernard picks on welter/lightweights.

And Joe comes to fight!... Where as Bernard comes to run.

I'd love to see Joe smash Bernard to pieces, but Bernard will never fight Joe, Bernard is looking at fighting the Mayweather vs Gatti winner...

I give up...

[Run]

Lacy has done nothing so far that would intimidate any top super-middle. If he gets past Reid (which is far from certain) then JC might have something to think about.

What are you talking about? He stopped Syd Vanderpool who is a tank. He knocked out a very game fighter in Rueben Williams as well. He is going to knock out Robin Reid. I dont understand where you are getting that first line from. Numerous decent pros have sparred with him and say he hits as hard as anyone they have ever faced. He has an excellent chin, and a bigger heart than people give him credit for.

Calzone would stand zero chance against him...and I dont think would last 3 rounds.



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[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

Calzaghe is the best Super Middleweight and i can't see Lacy, Kessler, Beyer or green beating him. People seem to forget how Calzaghe battered Sheika in 5 rounds, Lacy got a close decision against an older Sheika. Calzaghe as also beaten Eubank, Woodhall, Reid and Mitchell these opponents are a lot better than what Lacy has faced.

And also dont forget Bernard Hopkins has been ducking Calzaghe , Hopkins moans about not getting big money for fights then he turned down £2.5million to fight Calzaghe at the start of last year and fought Joppy and beat Allen for the 3rd time.

Calzaghe is not very hard to hit either. He likes to come forward and that suits Lacy just fine I'm sure.

Eubank was old as **** when Calzaghe fought him.

Hopkins has not ducked Joe. name one fight Joe has had outside the UK or in the U.S.? Bernard is THE middleweight champ, and fights in the U.S. (where any fighter who wants world recogntion goes to fight). For you to say Hopkins id ducking Calzaghe you must think Hopkins should come to the UK to fight Joe...yeah right. Calzaghe hasn't fought anyone of note lately anyway (since you seem to be picking on Hopkins' opposition). Veit had already KOd in 1 round and the rematch should have never been made.

[paul750]

C'mon that's a bit unfair! Calzaghe has made 16 defences of his WBO belt... And he has definatly fought some good fighters!

Mario Veit, Twice Only ever lost to Calzaghe.
Byron Mitchell, The WBA super-middleweight champion.
Charles Brewer, The IBF super-middleweight champion.
Richie Woodall, The WBC super-middleweight champion.
Omar Sheika, Just stretched Lacy the distance, Calzaghe beat in 5 rounds - 5 years ago. Sheika's beaten loadsa fighters like Glen Johnson etc.
Robin Reid, The WBC super-middleweight Champion
Chris Eubank, The great! Chris Eubank...

And Joe's made all those mandatories... There's not that much difference between Joe Calzaghe and Bernard Hopkins career's. (Difference being Bernard is American and so when he makes mandatories against Morrad Hakker/Carl Daniels/Robert Allen it's quite acceptable).

The difference between Bernard and Joe is that Joe only fights guy's in HIS weight class where as Bernard picks on welter/lightweights.

And Joe comes to fight!... Where as Bernard comes to run.

I'd love to see Joe smash Bernard to pieces, but Bernard will never fight Joe, Bernard is looking at fighting the Mayweather vs Gatti winner...

I give up...

a lot of that post is correct but some of those guys were past their best at the time like eubank and woodall, the only guy that he fought who was great at the time was robin reid and that was a very close fight, he does however have a hell of a lot of experience and is still not that old, i think he is underrated by a lot of people and would be too much for lacy, but he needs to fight a top fighter soon, he's spent way too long already fighting guys that are below him in terms of talent

[Cletus Funk]

What are you talking about? He stopped Syd Vanderpool who is a tank. He knocked out a very game fighter in Rueben Williams as well. He is going to knock out Robin Reid. I dont understand where you are getting that first line from. Numerous decent pros have sparred with him and say he hits as hard as anyone they have ever faced. He has an excellent chin, and a bigger heart than people give him credit for.

Calzone would stand zero chance against him...and I dont think would last 3 rounds.

You honestly think stopping Vanderpool is going to make JC or any other top 5 fighter scared of him? He's been stopped a few times and doesn't have a top class win on his record. JC's ko'd fighters who'd wipe the floor with Williams.

There's not a cat in hell's chance of Lacy stopping Reid, it's more likely to be the other way around. Reid will be far too cagey for him and will probably nail him when he starts getting frustrated.

Everything Lacy has, Calzaghe has plus more...faster, better skilled, more experienced. I can't see this fight happening anyway...JC will have moved up or retired by the time Lacy's built himself back up to a title shot after the Reid loss.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Hopkins has not ducked Joe. name one fight Joe has had outside the UK or in the U.S.?.

Joe Calzaghe fought Mckintyre in Copenhagen as cheif support on the Tyson bill.

Bernard is THE middleweight champ, and fights in the U.S. (where any fighter who wants world recogntion goes to fight).

That's just a good old fashioned American insuler opinion... Kostya Tszyu and many others do just fine travelling the World and putting on shows for the World to see.

For you to say Hopkins id ducking Calzaghe you must think Hopkins should come to the UK to fight Joe...yeah right.

Frank Warren offered Hopkins £6,000,000 (That's pounds sterling not US doller) to fight Joe Calzaghe in Las Vegas. Hopkins declined and fought Carl Daniels/Morrad Hakker/William Sloppy/Robert Allen (for the 6th time ) instead. Make of that what you will

Calzaghe hasn't fought anyone of note lately anyway (since you seem to be picking on Hopkins' opposition). Veit had already KOd in 1 round and the rematch should have never been made.

Veit 15 fights later has got himself back into the mandatory position, Joe had no choice other than be stripped... It's only fair! And anyway - So tell me - Should the 7 defences of Hopkins IBF middleweight belt against Robert Allen have been made? (there's a touch of sarcasim in there - I better let you know, coz' of the whole American "not getting european" sense of humour ****)

It's just so hypocritical there's no point in arguing it.

[Run]

You honestly think stopping Vanderpool is going to make JC or any other top 5 fighter scared of him? He's been stopped a few times and doesn't have a top class win on his record.

You obviously do not know who Vanderpool is. His last fight...he was knocked out yes. After Lacy already sent him downhill. His first loss was a stoppage due to a cut. He went the distance with Hopkins, Johnson, as well as multiple other punchers and is noted for having one of the best chins in boxing.

That whole "JC does it better" is ridiculous. No way a eurogarbage fighter can beat the better fighter in Lacy IMO.



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[Cletus Funk]

You obviously do not know who Vanderpool is. His last fight...he was knocked out yes. After Lacy already sent him downhill. His first loss was a stoppage due to a cut. He went the distance with Hopkins, Johnson, as well as multiple other punchers and is noted for having one of the best chins in boxing.

That whole "JC does it better" is ridiculous. No way a eurogarbage fighter can beat the better fighter in Lacy IMO.

I know as much about Vanderpool as I want to really....that's not a very impressive resume you've laid out for him. There's a stream of average fighters who've gone the distance with Hopkins and Johnson was losing all the time back then.

Can you point out what you think makes Lacy a better fighter because I can't see one thing thst the yank***** does better than JC.

[Run]

Can you point out what you think makes Lacy a better fighter because I can't see one thing thst the yank***** does better than JC.

Calzaghe is at the end of the rope, and Lacy is the most powerful up and comer in boxing IMO. You are actually saying Calzaghe would beat him...and outbox him despite his relentless pressure? Would he take the fight directly to him? Because I dont see either happening.
Thompson and Crawford are respectable fighters...and Lacy bulled through them. Rubin Williams is an extremely underrated fighter who is very skillfull. He could not deal with Lacy's Power and tenacity.

Lacy's style proves he has a very good chin. He is succeptable to shots...and has shown he can take them. Calzaghe may be a really big puncher.....but so is Reid. I suppose we will cross that bridge when we get to it: but watch him completely demolish Reid for the first time in his career. You will more than likely then be convinced he is a machine.

I guess I see what you are saying....because I really have no arguement. Lacy is still in the early phase of his career and Calzaghe has already been established. Either way, I dont see him beating Jeff.



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