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    #41
    Originally posted by martinwbc
    Well I'd expect nothing more!


    Look, I think it's time for me to start uploading some Calzaghe fights for you... Coz' you don't know what you're talking about.

    I'll pm the links to you.
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      #42
      Just on a sidenote Calzaghe is ranked #1 in the world by boxrec Lacy is #2 at supermiddleweight

      Bernard Hopkins is #1 middleweight by Boxrec Wright is #2 at middleweight

      Glen Johnson is ranked #1 by boxrec Tarver is #2 at light heavyweight

      Floyd Mayweather Jr is ranked #1 at light welterweight Tzyu is #2

      Jean Marc Mormeck is ranked #1 by boxrec at cruiserweight


      Conclusion: the boxrec computer rating system is pretty damn accurate.

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      • Martin (Top Knowledge)
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        #43
        Yeah I agree... Except this one is a load of bollox:

        Floyd Mayweather Jr is ranked #1 at light welterweight Tzyu is #2

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          #44
          Originally posted by martinwbc
          Yeah I agree... Except this one is a load of bollox:

          Floyd Mayweather Jr is ranked #1 at light welterweight Tzyu is #2
          Mayweather has fought better opposition. Even though Tzyu was undisputed champion in the division until he vacated the belts. Boxrec is flawed in that is does not take into account how fights are won, they dont factor in if a win is by first round KO or gift SD. But I will take these rankings over some of the ridiculous rankings of some sancctioning bodies. (Mayweather has 2 controversial descison wins of Jose Luis Castillo)

          Can somebody please explain to me how Cosme Rivera was ranked #1 by the IBF, that guy sucks he has losses and recent losses to guys with loosing records. He was ranked #1 by the IBF and the IBF has David Estrada at #2 contender despite the fact he lost to shane Moely in his last fight. Rivera is ranked #10 by the WBC and not even in the top 15 by *********. The IBF might even have David Estrada as number #1 contender now since Rivera lost. Totally ridiculous rankings.

          Estrada is #14 by Boxrec
          Rivera is #12 by Boxrec
          Last edited by The Troll; 05-17-2005, 06:55 PM.

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            #45
            Calphony has been ducking fighters for years. The sad thing is that he has decent skills but hasn't had the heart or desire to test his skills against the best in his division or moving up a weight class. It seems he's content with being a big fish in a small pond. I think Lacy is gonna KO him & viciously too.

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              #46
              Originally posted by McKay
              Mayweather has fought better opposition. Even though Tzyu was undisputed champion in the division until he vacated the belts. Boxrec is flawed in that is does not take into account how fights are won, they dont factor in if a win is by first round KO or gift SD. But I will take these rankings over some of the ridiculous rankings of some sancctioning bodies. (Mayweather has 2 controversial descison wins of Jose Luis Castillo)

              Can somebody please explain to me how Cosme Rivera was ranked #1 by the IBF, that guy sucks he has losses and recent losses to guys with loosing records. He was ranked #1 by the IBF and the IBF has David Estrada at #2 contender despite the fact he lost to shane Moely in his last fight. Rivera is ranked #10 by the WBC and not even in the top 15 by *********. The IBF might even have David Estrada as number #1 contender now since Rivera lost. Totally ridiculous rankings.

              Estrada is #14 by Boxrec
              Rivera is #12 by Boxrec
              I have to diss-agree fella... The level of competition faced by Floyd Mayweather is definatly not better than that faced by Kostya Tszyu!

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                #47
                Originally posted by martinwbc
                I have to diss-agree fella... The level of competition faced by Floyd Mayweather is definatly not better than that faced by Kostya Tszyu!
                according to boxrec he has. I will dig the file up and we will compare and contrast. Even though I agree Tzyu is #1 Light welterweight until somebody beats him. And like I said the boxrec rating system is flawed in that does not take into account how a fight is won. They count it the same whether it is a gift split descison win or first round KO.

                Kostya beat

                Sharama Mitchell TKO 3
                Jesse James Leija TKO 6
                Ben Tackie UD 12
                Otkay Urkal UD 12
                Zab Judah TKO 2
                Sharamba Mitchell TKO 7
                Julio Caesar Chavez TKO 6
                Ahmed Santos TKO 8
                Miguel Angel Gonzalez TKO 10
                Diosbelys Hurtado TKO 5
                Rafael Rueles TKO 9
                Calvin Grove KO 1
                Jan Bergman TKO 6
                Vince Phillips Lost TKO 10
                Hugo Peneda TKO 11
                Roger Mayweather UD 12
                Pedro Sanchez TKO 4
                Angel Hernadez TKO 7
                Hector Lopez UD 10


                Floyd Mayweather Jr

                Henry Bruselles TKO 8
                DeMarcus Corley UD 12
                Phillip N'Dou TKO 7
                Victorino Sosa UD 12
                Jose Luis Castillo UD 115-113 116-113 115-113 (controversial)
                Jose Luis Castillo UD 116-111 115-111 115-111 (controversial)
                Jesus Chavez TKO 9
                Carlos Alberto Hernandez UD
                Diego Corrales TKO 10
                Emanueal Augustus TKO 9
                Gregorio Varios 41-5 UD
                Carlos Gerena 34-2 TKO 7
                Carlos Rios 44-2-1 UD
                Angel Manfready TKO 2
                Genaro Hernandez 38-1-1
                Tony Pep UD





                Its pretty even to me, Maybe Tzyu has a slight edge but is very close. Mayweather gets a ****load of points from boxrec from beating Castillo and Corrales, and his wins over Castillo were very controversial.
                Last edited by The Troll; 05-18-2005, 05:13 AM.

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                  #48
                  I dont see what the problem is, i'm pretty sure Calzaghe would fight any super middle/ligh heavy/middle weight in the world and the only reason he hasnt fought guys like Hopkins, Tarver, Johnson, Jones is because they have either asked for far too much money or pulled out when the deal has been agreed.

                  The only reason he refused to fight Lacy because it was a no win situation, even if he had of won by 1st round KO people would just say he was a over hype 15-0 prospect.

                  Now Lacys got a lot more fans and respect Calzaghe has a lot more reason to fight him.

                  I think Lacy has the balls to fight Calzaghe(unlike the others) so i think now this fight will happen providing Lacy wins his next fight without any problems.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Runw/knives
                    Rubin Williams would beat Calzaghe....and he was Lacy's last victim who was getting cute.

                    Rubin Williams was very impessive in his fight against Lacy. I started out rooting for Lacy, but Williams counterpunching skills and defence were f***ing amazing. I hope that guys fights on TV again and does not fade into Bolivia. It was brilliant the way he was countering from Lacy's barrages against hte ropes. Plus he ate up alot of punishment and kept on fighting. He could of finished the fight but the ref called a totally premature stoppage in that one.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Runw/knives
                      yeah....that does say alot. Everyone including Calzone ducks him...because they know they would get knocked out.
                      If the Calzaghe vs Lacy fight happens this year i'll bet you 40million Calzaghe wins.

                      PM me if we have a deal.

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