I have Pacquiao as a top 10 ATG lock already. He can even become a top 5 ATG by beating Floyd.
Alfonso Gomez :"PACQUIAO is BEST FIGHTER EVER!"
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Manny is fightin at WW but he's still a midget with at best a lightweight frame.Big difference between having a reasonable opinion and saying something ******.
What if someone says FM is ranked higher than Pacquiao if he beats SSM? You guys would laugh at the person for making that comment.
You can say whatever you want, but that doesn't mean you're correct and people are going to agree with you.
Pacquiao is nowhere near the top 10 right now.
I'm not hating on Pacquiao, because I like the guy and he's an ATG, but he's not in the top 10. You can list 10 better fighters than Manny who have a better resume than Manny. Pacquiao is somewhere in the top 30-35.
Is Floyd the greatest of all time because some experts believe he's the best, Floyd says he's the best, and some of his fans say he's the best? NO!
Are people going to say Floyd is the greatest of all time if he beast Manny and SSM? No. That should make Floyd the greatest of all time if he beats Manny because some people think Manny is the greatest of all time, lol.
That's why Floyd would not be greater than Manny beating him except if he beat Manny easy like Hatton or Corrales wich would in hell not happen style wise except if Floyd land a deadly blow in the first rounds and stop Manny,everything can happen in boxing but I really doubt.
Yall can baby cry,Manny and SSM are greats but one is a blown up midget and the other is 39 years old.
It's not excuses but Facts,while Cotto,Hatton being shot(*****s excuses) when they fought Manny remains to be seen,I guess Zab was shot when he fought Floyd after getting beat by Baldo and koed by Tszyu.Comment
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That's not sure,it's pretty subjective.
I don't rank Marciano and Jack Johnson over Manny when I look at their records.
Beating an old Archie and an old Louis and Walcott,Ezzar Charles at heavyweight is not that bad,still great,Marciano like Manny was an exciting fighter and a legend.
But I think Manny's 7 titles campain bodies Marciano heavyweight wins.Boxing fans are denials and overrate old school fighters.
Same line for Johnson,his hitory is cool,great he has a great campain beating smaller white men and a shot retired Jeffries(FACTS),but Manny achieved more at an other level.
Yall can baby puss on my post,but many top HOF are overrated,and I'm not goin to wait 30 years to put Manny at the place he deserves.Comment
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I completely agree with u.I would think someone was the best ever also if a fought a guy who toyed with me and then beat my ass but then he fought another guy who then toyed with him and beat his ass. Thats what this **** comes down to. Gomez thinks of himself as a beast but he knows that Cotto treated him like a ***** in the ring so he thought Cotto was a GOD like figure and then he saw Pac **** Cotto which ofcourse now makes Pac the GOAT
Tell this to Paulie Maliggnagi.. lol.Comment
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Got to say Pac must be mentioned as the best ever now. Stepped up so many weights and you would think the last weight class Pac fought in, the best WW might be able to give Pac a good test. But no! It would be similar in RJJ stepping up to heavyweight and then demolishing Evander Holyfield when Holyfield was in his prime.
No one was ever able to beat Cotto like that, but Pac just made it look easy. People then made excuses, again trying to figure out how Pac was able to do it. They tried figuring it out when he beat Hatton and DLH easier than expected as well. There comes a time when you have to accept you are in the presense of greatness. Pac is special.
Its fine to say Pac is the best fighter ever and not feel guilty. It is an opinion. Some say SRR is the best ever. It is only an opinion as well.Last edited by hugh grant; 02-14-2010, 07:42 PM.Comment
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That's not sure,it's pretty subjective.
I don't rank Marciano and Jack Johnson over Manny when I look at their records.
Beating an old Archie and an old Louis and Walcott,Ezzar Charles at heavyweight is not that bad,still great,Marciano like Manny was an exciting fighter and a legend.
But I think Manny's 7 titles campain bodies Marciano heavyweight wins.Boxing fans are denials and overrate old school fighters.
Same line for Johnson,his hitory is cool,great he has a great campain beating smaller white men and a shot retired Jeffries(FACTS),but Manny achieved more at an other level.
Yall can baby puss on my post,but many top HOF are overrated,and I'm not goin to wait 30 years to put Manny at the place he deserves.
Manny is not in the top 25 ATG. Some observers give him too much credit. He is an exciting fighter but all time great top 25 he is not. This is no knock on Manny but rather a comparison to past great fighters. When you talking about Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Muhammad Ali, Pernell Whitaker, Joe Louis, Henry Armstrong, George Foreman, Willie Pep, Joe Frazier, Larry Holmes, Roberto Duran, Evander Holyfield, etc. I mean I can go on and on. He just don't compare.Comment
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