Comments Thread For: Mayweather: Pacquiao Can Forget 50-50 if Our PPV Wins

[imscythe]

Sure I can let's see:
Pacroid
Marquez controversial win
David Diaz stopped by Kendall Holt
Oscar loss to Floyd, depleted making weight
Hatton KO'd by Floyd
Cotto coming off wars with Judah,Mosley then KO'd by Cheato then another near loss to Clottey
Clottey a proven ball dropper

Floyd
Oscar for title at 154 no catch-wt (biggest PPV in boxing history)
Hatton unbeaten
Marquez chasing Pacroid get's shut down
Mosley coming off Cheato crushing

Let me edit some of it....

Pacman
Marquez controversial win (at Marquez's division)
David Diaz stopped by Kendall Holt
Oscar loss to Floyd, depleted making weight (Oscar was the one who demanded the 147 weight limit)
Hatton KO'd by Floyd (Floyd KO Hatton at WW, Hatton's best is at 140)
Cotto coming off wars with Judah,Mosley then KO'd by Cheato then another near loss to Clottey (Floyd retired)
Clottey a proven ball dropper (The best available aside from Floyd during the time when Mosley was set with Berto)

Floyd
Oscar for title at 154 no catch-wt (biggest PPV in boxing history) (Oscar is always a draw)
Hatton unbeaten (read statement above)
Marquez chasing Pacman get's shut down (At WW, w/c made Marquez bloated yet Floyd broke the 144 weight limit, just to make sure)
Mosley coming off Cheato crushing (This one is due to series of unfortunate events and Floyd got nowhere else to go but accept the fight)

[fdotorres]

his father has never been accused of taking drugs. do you know somthing i dont? if so please feel free to share it with me. and who said there was more money to be made in texas please share also this info.

no, his father served time in jail for selling 'em

that's far worse

[davidoff]

Really? So Pac needed Cotto (the biggest latin fighter in the world) to get 1.25 while PBF got over a million with Marquez who nobody outside of a true boxing fan knows? Pac/Oscar would have never did the numbers Oscar/PBF did because Oscar was coming off horrible performances when he fought Pac but was champion at 154 when he fought PBF the economy had nothing to do with it. Undefeated champion vs undefeated champion is always a huge event which is why PBF/Hatton was far bigger than Hatton/Pac. Floyd should've demanded 60/40 the first time. There shouldnt even be a conversation about anything less at this point.

Yes, really.

I know you say there shouldn't be anything less than a 60-40 split discussed, and FMJ should have demanded that. But the fact is, him and his team didn't.

Him and his team, who have the proper access to all the statistics and analysis about the previous sales, and circumstances in which they occurred, were satisfied with 50-50.

My point is simply that if there was satisfaction with 50-50 after Pac did more sales the previous fight, then I'd like to think there will be some humility and a desire to get the fight on from FMJ, even if he does more sales the next fight.

I will criticise Pac equally if he does more sales and does the same. Until that time, I'm criticising FMJ.

[Sugar Q]

get over it, pac is ranked number 1, floyd isnt. how can you claim to be the greatest of all time when you dont fight anybody in your own division and fight people from 1 and 2 divisions below! and you can make the case that castillo beat him in the first fight. did floyd sign the atchweight? yes. did he make the weight? no, thats is just as good as cheating.

How can you say cherry pick when Manny is clearly going after the wounded. Marquez beat Manny the last time out then Manny said he didnt want a 3rd fight and moved up in weight. Floyd immediately rematched Castillo and clearly beat him so whats your point? Floyd is fighting the welter-wt champion who Manny wanted absolutely no part of and once again Manny is going after the wounded (a fighter coming off tough losses). Do you see a pattern or are you blind?

[V.WEBB]

ok

he had 1 fight at the weight before, didnt look very good all be it he won a title.

Manny had NEVER had a fight at 140. He still moved up to face Hatton.

im not really saying he should have fought hatton at his best weight.

you sure, because you made this clear on more than ONE occassion.

im saying he should have been fighting true welterweights.

before Hatton, he fought two champs in the division, Judah and Baldo. Beat Hatton then retired for 2 YEARS. Came back and beat JMM. Fight failed with newly crowned champ, Manny (welterweight), now he facing the #1 WW in the World and #3 P4P guy in Mosley.

whilst billy wanted to move to 147 to face floyd, it is still clear that any welterweight would have had physical advantages over hatton. my main issue with that fight was the ref. im pretty certain it wouldnt have changed things much, but that ref didnt let hatton work, the millisecond hatton got on the inside the ref was straight in there.

with the hatton should have fought manny at his best weight, it looks pretty apparent that his best weight is nearly all the divisions!

bolded and colored.

[AssasinKing]

And he has to cheek to say who wouldnt fight for $20 million...what a ****

[AllEyesOpen]

Hatton would have been beaten worse at 140, that is if his team felt that he was ready for the fight at the time, people forget this.

Regardless Pacquiao will continue to duck the testing, not even 14 days is enough of an advantage for him, he needs damn near a month cause he's in "Hard Training". Mayweather & Mosley train like beasts and they can handle it, not to mention that random means just that, there's no guarantee you'll be tested so close to the fight.

Mayweather/Mosley will do better then Pacquiao/Clottey and i hope somehow Mayweather/Pacquiao takes place, but i doubt it.

[tru2boxingfan]

you know i alway's got to say something to you man.i like floyd and i some what agree with your list but hatton ko by floyd pac did it better i think even tho pac beat hoya floyd beat a better hoya (both were not the same one that was in with mosley and vargas)cotto was also done when pac got to him and money has judah.right there it look's like money is in the better postion untill i see marquez for pac and morales and barrera pac has hof after hof pac has the better resume sorry

In terms of of resume I think your right, but thats if you look at how I look at it. I look at it from a stand point the time they took on the fighter. Not the fighters overall record now, but Pac has a good resume. Pac deserves a little more respect from Mayweather.

Mayweather Resume:

Corrales (back when he had some buzz)
Castillo x2
Judah
Gatti
De La Hoya @ 154

Pacquiao Resume:

Morales
Barrera
Marquez x2
Diaz
Cotto (i'll give him credit for this one)

[Black Dynamite]

Really bro? Floyd beat Oscar & Hatton at bigger weights then Pac, and destroyed JMM. In addition, he's posted much higher PPV numbers than Pac in all 3 fights! There is no way Pac should've gotten a 50/50 split but Floyd wanted the fight so bad he agreed to it. It's rather obvious who's ducking who. I don't think it's Pac that's ducking Floyd, I think it's Arum protecting Pac much like he did with Cotto up until Margarito hit him in the head with bricks.

Team Pac hurt Pacquiao's supposedly clean image by not allowing him to take the test, which in turn told us the fans and the media he COULD be dirty.

Everyone knew Floyd was gonna demand much more of the pie WHEN his fight out does Pacs. It doesn't mean Floyd is running from Pac, it's just common sense. It doesn't even make sense for anyone to call him chicken Floyd, or Gayweather when he's beaten 3 of the same fighters, one of which was undefeated at the time and none were battle damaged. Those fighters Floyd beat before Pac somehow put Pac on the map in the PPV world even though he's been draining the fighters. I like both fighters and Floyd could just be talking but I doubt it, right now he has all the cards.

[M.I.C.]

Floyd was willing to accept a 50-50 split when everyone thought he would demand much more. He was also willing to meet Pacquiao halfway with a 14-day cutoff for the blood testing. As Dcopo says he even agreed to the ridiculous $10 million weight penalty.

Pac Man on the other hand wasn't willing to make one simple concession.

So I'm glad that Floyd is playing hardball with him now.

Facts. logic, mean nothing to Pac fans, its a waste of time.