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  • Verstyle
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    #31
    Crazy thinking a mid-sized NBA player would be the a giant in boxing. Crazy ****.

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      #32
      Originally posted by El Castigador
      I want alive then either but I know the heavies back then were BEASTS.

      Hell even in the 90's.
      You can only go by here say but I doubt you have watched every old video especially when very few exist and no matter what era we are in ppl will complain about things and talk about how bad fighters are and how they could be better....you appreciate fighters more when they are gone.

      Just look at all of the criticism Lewis got when he was active now many call him and ATG.

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      • Mikhnienko
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        #33
        Originally posted by Erik18
        The reason why eastern europeans are succesful at strength sports is that they don't have proper drug testing.

        Im not american but i tend to like african american fighters because they are usually much more entertaining than eastern european robots like the klitschko's!!
        There was a thread in the lounge entitled "Why Are Europeans So Strong" listing results and raising some interesting points about European dominance in strength sports.

        Some ****** like yourself made the same steroid accusation and this was the TS's responce which seems fitting.


        Originally posted by Khmelnytsky

        1) That is only a part of Eastern Europe. The rest of Europe is also well represented.

        2) Europe's success holds true prior to the 1950's when anabolic steroids became known about and still holds true from the 70's up to today when testing has has become more and more thorough.

        3) It was American Olympic team physician Dr. John Ziegler who created Dianabol and from 1956 on Americans used steroids as much as anyone else.

        4) All participants are subjected to the same testing.

        5)Americans have more GMF, steroids, and all kinda of **** pumped into their food than any other nation. I'm sure one could make an argument about how Americans have plenty of "natural" (not natural but you get me) exposure to that **** via their normal diet.
        All of that in mind let's stick to the topic, why are Europeans so strong?

        So no it cannot be attributed to steroids. Evidence seems to indicate that Europeans are stronger. Deal with it.
        Last edited by Mikhnienko; 02-12-2010, 10:42 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Mikhnienko
          There was a thread in the lounge entitled "Why Are Europeans So Strong" listing results and raising some interesting points about European dominance in strength sports.

          Some ****** like yourself made the same steroid accusation and this was the TS's responce which seems fitting.





          So no it cannot be attributed to steroids. Evidence seems to indicate that Europeans are stronger. Deal with it.
          I am European, and every white person in the world is european. have you ever seen a east european woman weight lifter? ROIDS! lol why are only the east europeans strong? because the government hands out drugs to make their failed country seem good at the olympics. LOL

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          • El Castigador
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            #35
            Originally posted by Mikhnienko
            There was a thread in the lounge entitled "Why Are Europeans So Strong" listing results and raising some interesting points about European dominance in strength sports.

            Some ****** like yourself made the same steroid accusation and this was the TS's responce which seems fitting.





            So no it cannot be attributed to steroids. Evidence seems to indicate that Europeans are stronger. Deal with it.
            'Reasons why the... 02-12-2010 11:26 PM Mikhnienko Go eat some fried chicken"


            You are a racist. Thx for the red k message.

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            • Mikhnienko
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              #36
              Originally posted by Erik18
              I am European, and every white person in the world is european. have you ever seen a east european woman weight lifter? ROIDS! lol why are only the east europeans strong? because the government hands out drugs to make their failed country seem good at the olympics. LOL

              I reiterate :

              Originally posted by Khmelnytsky

              1) That is only a part of Eastern Europe. The rest of Europe is also well represented.

              2) Europe's success holds true prior to the 1950's when anabolic steroids became known about and still holds true from the 70's up to today when testing has has become more and more thorough.

              3) It was American Olympic team physician Dr. John Ziegler who created Dianabol and from 1956 on Americans used steroids as much as anyone else.

              4) All participants are subjected to the same testing.

              5)Americans have more GMF, steroids, and all kinda of **** pumped into their food than any other nation. I'm sure one could make an argument about how Americans have plenty of "natural" (not natural but you get me) exposure to that **** via their normal diet.
              All of that in mind let's stick to the topic, why are Europeans so strong?
              Either address some legitimate points, stating your claim & support it with evidence, or stfu.

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              • El Castigador
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                #37
                Originally posted by Mikhnienko
                I reiterate :



                Either address some legitimate points, stating your claim & support it with evidence, or stfu.
                'Reasons why the... 02-12-2010 11:26 PM Mikhnienko Go eat some fried chicken"


                You are a racist. Thx for the red k message.

                Com eon the show racist.

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                • Alec900
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                  #38
                  HW division sucks because it's ruled by eastern europeans? isn't that kind of racist? oh sorry I forget only white can be racists...

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                  • Schmerzen
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by VERSATILE2K10
                    Crazy thinking a mid-sized NBA player would be the a giant in boxing. Crazy ****.
                    valuev is also tall, but he is no wladimir klitschko.
                    if u start boxing when u realize u have some physical advantages, then its too late i guess, i would say bad luck for the russian giant.
                    saying basketball and NFL are the reasons american boxers suck at heavyweight divison is just wrong.
                    holyfield was the best heavyweight since holmes left in the us, and he had his prime at cruiserweight.
                    dont know why usa is producing so many joke heavyweights since 20years, but i would learn to live with it, because i dont see anything changes in the next 10years at least.
                    there is no ali, louis or liston anymore, accept it

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                    • Mikhnienko
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by El Castigador
                      'Reasons why the... 02-12-2010 11:26 PM Mikhnienko Go eat some fried chicken"


                      You are a racist. Thx for the red k message.

                      Com eon the show racist.
                      You already said this, i already responded in the other thread.

                      No problem. My pleasure.

                      lol pot calling the kettle black.

                      was my responce.


                      I'm upfront and honest about everything. You on the otherhand....

                      If you hate whites or Slavic people in particular for whatever reason, cool, you're entitled to think whatever you want to think.

                      Your endless threads bashing white fighters makes your views more than evident. But being a closet hater that does it covertly/subtly and then denies it makes me have no respect for you & think you're a phag.

                      Cry somehwere else

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