Serious talk:How can Floyd fans not see that this olympic test was just to duck Pac

[V.WEBB]

thats speculation on your part no?

arent most of Manny's fans getting on people for speculating on Manny and his actions?

isnt that just a bit hypocritical?



but thats the pure hater in you so if you would rather say something like that then fine

but as a boxing fan you should be excited about a fight between two of the top welters in the game

much like I am excited about Sat even though I have been critical of Manny and the hypocrisy on his side and his fan base





ur right Mayweather lost money on this as well so can we at least get that out of the way?

but last time I checked and you can verify if you like

Mayweather? you know the guy you are so hard on

said yes to EVERYTHING Mannys side threw at him. He didn't hem or haw he said ok to the weight stip (I didnt realize Manny has done this before) said ok to the glove size split share etc

Manny said yes to all but one

so to say Mayweather's fans are like sheep don't you think the same cam be said about the myopic stance many of Manny's fans have as well?

I mean **** he can do no wrong on here right?

Good post E...for some reason I don't have the patience to type all that to PAKYO, but nonetheless you hit the nail on the head.

[Eaner0919]

Why should i answer a question when you people are AVOIDING mine????

And telling me to shut up is funny, what, are you my gf?

which question I will answer it?

[PAKYO]

thats speculation on your part no?

arent most of Manny's fans getting on people for speculating on Manny and his actions?

isnt that just a bit hypocritical?



but thats the pure hater in you so if you would rather say something like that then fine

but as a boxing fan you should be excited about a fight between two of the top welters in the game

much like I am excited about Sat even though I have been critical of Manny and the hypocrisy on his side and his fan base





ur right Mayweather lost money on this as well so can we at least get that out of the way?

but last time I checked and you can verify if you like

Mayweather? you know the guy you are so hard on

said yes to EVERYTHING Mannys side threw at him. He didn't hem or haw he said ok to the weight stip (I didnt realize Manny has done this before) said ok to the glove size split share etc

Manny said yes to all but one

so to say Mayweather's fans are like sheep don't you think the same cam be said about the myopic stance many of Manny's fans have as well?

I mean **** he can do no wrong on here right?

Now,, that's more like it, at least i got some answers from you.

Yes, i'm getting hypocritical as the fight i thought will not happen and then getting elated when floyd said to pac to step on the plate and then get scuttled, well what can i say riding on that roller coaster ride?

That's why i'm not getting my hopes too high yet until May 1.

[Chuckguy]

Tell me how you would react bro. A shady guy accuses you IN PUBLIC of taking steroids based on your recent performances. He ask for you to take a drug test singling you out from 40 others he has faced before making you look like the black sheep even more. The public is watching and listening. You believe that random blood tests will be a hassle and affect your performance so you compromise. You should not have been questioned in the first place because you did nothing wrong, you should not have been asked in the first place yet you feel responsible in proving you are innocent to a few conspiracy thinkers all the while feeling insulted by the whole ordeal. You want the fight yet you don't wanna give in to someone who did you wrong. You don't speak english that well and you are caught in an awkward situation. **** ain't right.

Ive said it over and over homie
this is how I would react if I were in pacs shoes
I would accept whatever he wants and kick his ass in the ring
and put in the contract that win or lose if I take all the tests you are demanding and every test is clean then I get X amount of money in the millions from your purse because you are the one accussing me

Then I laugh at him twice
once for kicking his ass and then for testing clean and taking his money

that is how to handle it if you have nothing to hide

now if I was hiding something I wouldnt agree to the tests randomly or before a certain window cause I dont want to get caught and tarnish my legacy

Im sorry to say that pac made the more suspect choice.

[Eaner0919]

Now,, that's more like it, at least i got some answers from you.

Yes, i'm getting hypocritical as the fight i thought will not happen and then getting elated when floyd said to pac to step on the plate and then get scuttled, well what can i say riding on that roller coaster ride?

That's why i'm not getting my hopes too high yet until May 1.

but here is what you are clearly avoiding:

1. why is it on Mayweather? wasn't Manny the one who finally said no? I mean Mayweather DID go from random to 14 days before right? Manny's side said 30 THEN when Golden Boy provided video proof of 24 days only THEN did they move on that day.

2. name a fight where Mayweather did not go through with? Remember he retired so DLH II didn't happen but if that was all a ploy why did it take 2 years for him to let us in on the ploy?

3. if Manny didn't want to let Floyd control what happened then why did his side say yes to testing period? Why didn't they just tell Floyd to **** off we fight under NSAC rules and if you don't like it fight someone else? I mean you mention being on a roller coaster ride like it was solely Floyd's fault but wasn't it Manny who strung us along with yes to testing then no to random then yes to 30 days but wait not its 24 days?

had he said no at least it wouldn't have gotten all our hopes up right?

or are you so myopic that all this lands on Floyd?

[PAKYO]

which question I will answer it?

Damn, i hate re-typing but here it is...

Why did floyd had to ask for an unprecedented ost when he has said it himself Pac is an easy fight???? He's been telling everyone and all he is the best even greater than all the past best boxers and he is not afraid to face anyone, so why make those demands and then say he is afraid of his life?

When you answer it, please spare me all the other bull****s like manny made demands too or so and so and also those cleaning up act and all other bull****s that roids is a danger to an opponents health which is totally hogwash.

[STREET CLEANER]

How can a Test demand deemed a deal breaker. How would they know? Unless Pac is on something. How about if the Pac team would had said yes? This would not even be a subject that has been so debated. It was the only thing holding the fight, no other thing besides this.

Also the Morales blood incident was the night before the fight and was a blood test that requires more blood. This at a minimum would had been 14 days before the fight (at any random time which both fighters would be subjected to). The only thing not cleared is if the Pac team would had any input in which lab was gonna do the testing.

If the testing was gonna be in done within reason I don't see what is the problem.

[Eaner0919]

Damn, i hate re-typing but here it is...

thanks

Why did floyd had to ask for an unprecedented ost when he has said it himself Pac is an easy fight????

because there had been speculation long before Sr said anything. In fact, Sr got his knowledge about the speculation from Floyd's team not vice versa

kind of throws a big fat hole in everyone's theory that Sr was the one who started this doesn't it?

nope people approached Mayweather's team. Mayweather's team made inquiries to quite a few people (some I know well) about PEDs about what they know about Manny etc

with that he went forward.

now the hypocritical approach would then leave it with Manny but no he also has stated

1. Mosley will be subject to the same OST that Manny was asked to perform
2. every fight from here on out will be this way

so while yes Mayweather's reasons may be greedy isn't the whole of the sport the benefit? arent we at least addressing an issue that has been around in sports for years a good thing?

He's been telling everyone and all he is the best even greater than all the past best boxers and he is not afraid to face anyone, so why make those demands and then say he is afraid of his life?

cmon now just by the end statement you are being dramatic rather than objective in your stance

could it be that he just wants to ensure a level playing field?

simple as that really

When you answer it, please spare me all the other bull****s like manny made demands too or so and so and also those cleaning up act and all other bull****s that roids is a danger to an opponents health which is totally hogwash.

why is that BS? because YOU dont believe it?

well then disprove some things then so we can indeed move on

1. why is it okay for Manny to make unprecedented demands that go beyond governing bodies? he has done this at least twice

2. while I have stated Mayweather's reasons were selfish how is this not a benefit to the sport? explain well please

3. whoa you mean to say PEDs are not a danger to sports? Ok let me see you credentials and reasoning as to why you think that way and I will go from there

I expect your answers since I answered yours

thanks

[Eaner0919]

Damn, i hate re-typing but here it is...

Why did floyd had to ask for an unprecedented ost when he has said it himself Pac is an easy fight???? He's been telling everyone and all he is the best even greater than all the past best boxers and he is not afraid to face anyone, so why make those demands and then say he is afraid of his life?

When you answer it, please spare me all the other bull****s like manny made demands too or so and so and also those cleaning up act and all other bull****s that roids is a danger to an opponents health which is totally hogwash.

answer me one more question please

if Mayweather is indeed ducking Manny

how did he know that the PED testing would be the deal breaker?

why didn't he just go for an easier one like say 10oz gloves which he has fought in twice while Manny hasn't?

why not go after the stip about the weight overage penalty and stick with it?

why PEDs?

explain please

[Chuckguy]

Damn, i hate re-typing but here it is...

Why did floyd had to ask for an unprecedented ost when he has said it himself Pac is an easy fight???? He's been telling everyone and all he is the best even greater than all the past best boxers and he is not afraid to face anyone, so why make those demands and then say he is afraid of his life?

When you answer it, please spare me all the other bull****s like manny made demands too or so and so and also those cleaning up act and all other bull****s that roids is a danger to an opponents health which is totally hogwash.

I know you didnt ask me but let me give you my answer.
We all know Floyd is very confident and ****y
He feels that Manny is dirty so he wanted to call him on it
He feels that Cotto could have got played by margs and look at the damage it caused
he also feels that it was wrong for SSM to use steroids.
Floyd is a safety first fighter and man.
He is not willing to risk his life or career by fighting a dirty fighter
It is his right to make these demands because he is the one fighting not you not me not anyone else.

So let me ask you this
whats wrong with asking him to test randomly?
and dont come with that bull **** that its never been done before
or nothing is proven or its all speculation