PAUL WILLIAMS is SEVERELY OVER RATED!!!

[El Castigador]

Dzinziruk, Quintana rubber match, Pavlik, Kirkland,

Dzindiruk was going through his **** with his promotional company.

Quintana was taking time off.

Pavlik??? The ****? He tried to fight his ass twice.

Kirkland......Jro please stop.

[TITO SEVERE]

GREAT.

Heres your homework....

Name the fighters you would rather Paul had faced then Koelle, Phillips and Winky.


Please tell me.

Cintron or Angullo at 154
Clottey at 147 even HBO was not going to buy it do a JT and move to a different network.
At 160 pretty much anyone with a pulse is better than Andy Kolle.

[TITO SEVERE]

Dammit you're right. Im outta here.

TITO SEVERE you fcukers dont get it watch the movie EMPIRE or go look it up that is your homework.

[El Castigador]

Cintron or Angullo at 154
Clottey at 147 even HBO was not going to buy it do a JT and move to a different network.
At 160 pretty much anyone with a pulse is better than Andy Kolle.

He tried to fight Cintron. He pulled out with a hand injury. Remember?

HBO turned down Clottey-Williams.

Koelle was a stay busy because no one would fight him.

[El Castigador]

TITO SEVERE you fcukers dont get it watch the movie EMPIRE or go look it up that is your homework.

I seen empire. It wasnt a great flick my dude.

[Evil Abed]

This is exactly how I see him we agree 100%. This is not to say he wont beat alot of fighters and that he is not good for boxing and fun to watch but at middle weight against the more heavy handed guys that can counter him? He leaves himself wide open. He gets hit with the same punches he is very easy to time and does not use his heaight to his advantage. When he gets in there with a guy like Pavlik not saying Pavlik thinking of Pavliks size and hieght reach etc he wont have the physical advantages he has at welter or junior middle and we will see where he stands or lays.

Are you serious?

I don't think you know what overrated means.

PW can beat elite fighters at 147,154 and at 160 and hes overrated?

I think Martinez's style is his weakness. Its a bad style match-up.

But yet he still won.

No one said he was perfect, Every fighter has flaws.

The fact that he can overcome his flaws speaks volumes for him.

I think he whups Pavlik right now or any MW.

The only people I see beating PW(not named Floyd) right now are in the super-six and that's real talk.

[Afactor4]

He would give any fighter up against him trouble. He may be a limited volume puncher, but he was exposed by a slick top guy in his weight class and still won a close decision.

He still got up from a knock down, took some monstrous counter left hooks, and his punch output never faded.

[Bushbaby]

It's like this homeboy,the Punisher chooses to fight the way he does,if uv been watching him like U claim,U know he has a good jab when he decides to throw it!!Yes he does get hit,but that doesn't mean he is overrated,the man can currently fight in 3 weight classes!!If the Punisher used his hight & fought strictly from the end of the jab,he'd probably be undefeated!!Overrated is a word u use when a fighter hasn't fought anyone,or done anything & people jock him!!The Punisher barely has any fans & has been avoided by the so called best!!

[El Castigador]

He would give any fighter up against him trouble. He may be a limited volume puncher, but he was exposed by a slick top guy in his weight class and still won a close decision.

He still got up from a knock down, took some monstrous counter left hooks, and his punch output never faded.

Exactly.

Quintana and Martinez are two of the best lefties around his weight classes. He beat both of them. Considering that slick lefties are his weakness. Call me when Pac fights a slick lefty.

[jrosales13]

Dzindiruk was going through his **** with his promotional company.

Quintana was taking time off.

Pavlik??? The ****? He tried to fight his ass twice.

Kirkland......Jro please stop.

Wait, wait you telling me Kolle is better than Kirkland? you telling me Phillips is better than Kirkland? Kirkland might of been better than that version of Winky also... And, that is a maybe... But, I won't argue if you think that version of Winky was better... But, Kirkland was damn sure better then other 2....

Quintana was 1 round? He could of caught Quintana cold... Quintana outboxed for him for 12... 1 round could be a fluke, 12 rounds is harder to make a fluke... And, I will Quintan>Kolle, Phillips, maybe even that version of Winky

We talking about the first time Pavlik was offered... This was even before Pavlik even decided to fight B-hop... This is after the Quintana rematch... P-Will still didn't hadn't fought Kolle or Winky or Phillips... P-Will didn't reallly want the fight... Pavlik wanted it, Arum wanted it more then what he wanted the Hopkins... P-Will instead fought Kolle, which left Pavlik with no other option but Hopkins...

Dzinziruk was not goitn through no **** with his promotional company so where are you getting that from?

Also around this time Clottey was calling out Williams... Clottey would of been a bettter...

The Destroyer Lopez was a better choice than Kolle...

Look at the time frame from this fights...