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  • #61
    Originally posted by mazdaru View Post
    yeah, i have never seen them fight.

    if manny was as cofident as the bull**** he and roach have been spitting about beating floyds ass, he would have taken the test, came into the ring andpunished floyd for it. rather, he ran for the hills, sorry, clottey-a mole hill
    Like I've said, now you have a built in excuse and you've just proven it. Its as much Floyds fault as it is Manny's. Dude said he would whoop Pac after Pac ko'd Cotto. again I ask, what has changed between now and then? What changed is the Mays started a smear campaign and asked for extra testing from a fighter who has never tested positive for anything. Had the not tried to have Pac judged and just asked for the testing this deal might have gotten done. so make sure you blame your hero as much as you blame Pacquiao.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
      Like I've said, now you have a built in excuse and you've just proven it. Its as much Floyds fault as it is Manny's. Dude said he would whoop Pac after Pac ko'd Cotto. again I ask, what has changed between now and then? What changed is the Mays started a smear campaign and asked for extra testing from a fighter who has never tested positive for anything. Had the not tried to have Pac judged and just asked for the testing this deal might have gotten done. so make sure you blame your hero as much as you blame Pacquiao.
      the test was in the negotiations from jump street. there was no suprise for random testing that floyd requested. which Roach said they were good with, long as pac had 5 days to recover.

      so its not as much of floyds fault as it was mannys. its mannysfault. if manny wanted the fight, he would have accepted the test. there is nothing wrong in asking for test especially when you are putting your life and career at stake.. if i meet a chic and she ask me to get test before we start having unprotected sex, im going to take the test just like she will.

      or better yet, im an actor. if there is a scene where someone is going to be shoooting a gun at me that uses blanks, im going to ask the props/gun specialist if i can see the gun and blanks to so i can make sure there arent any bullets being fired at me

      all you are making is excuses, my friend
      Last edited by mazdaru; 02-09-2010, 02:25 AM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
        Like I've said, now you have a built in excuse and you've just proven it. Its as much Floyds fault as it is Manny's. Dude said he would whoop Pac after Pac ko'd Cotto. again I ask, what has changed between now and then? What changed is the Mays started a smear campaign and asked for extra testing from a fighter who has never tested positive for anything. Had the not tried to have Pac judged and just asked for the testing this deal might have gotten done. so make sure you blame your hero as much as you blame Pacquiao.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by mazdaru View Post
          the test was in the negotiations from jump street. there was no suprise for random testing that floyd requested. which Roach said they were good with, long as pac had 5 days to recover.

          so its not as much of floyds fault as it was mannys. its mannysfault. if manny wanted the fight, he would have accepted the test. there is nothing wrong in asking for test especially when you are putting your life and career at stake.. if i meet a chic and she ask me to get test before we start having unprotected sex, im going to take the test just like she will.

          or better yet, im an actor. if there is a scene where someone is going to be shoooting a gun at me that uses blanks, im going to asked the props/gun specialist if i can see the gun and blanks to so i can make sure there arent any bullets being fired at me

          all you are making is excuses, my friend
          Once again you're not answering the question. Besides the smear campaign initiated by the Mayweather family, what has changed since Pac beat Cotto and Floyd said he could whoop Pac? In other words why did Floyd think he could beat him then, but not now?

          Next, why did Floyd never ask for these tests previous to the Pac talks if his life and career were at stake? Why not ask it of Marquez who you already said beat Manny twice? Why not of Oscar who he was moving up against? Instead he decides to slander a fighter he had already claimed he would beat and than ask for a test from out of the normal protocol test from a man who never tested positive for anything. Why did his team feel the need to slander instead of just asking for the test?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
            Once again you're not answering the question. Besides the smear campaign initiated by the Mayweather family, what has changed since Pac beat Cotto and Floyd said he could whoop Pac? In other words why did Floyd think he could beat him then, but not now?

            Next, why did Floyd never ask for these tests previous to the Pac talks if his life and career were at stake? Why not ask it of Marquez who you already said beat Manny twice? Why not of Oscar who he was moving up against? Instead he decides to slander a fighter he had already claimed he would beat and than ask for a test from out of the normal protocol test from a man who never tested positive for anything. Why did his team feel the need to slander instead of just asking for the test?
            The steroid issue didn't blowup until after Pacquiao refused the testing.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by SlickBoxer View Post

              The grown ups are talking now son and can't be influenced by any biased video and sound track. Go to bed.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by SlickBoxer View Post
                The steroid issue didn't blowup until after Pacquiao refused the testing.
                Pac agreed to almost everything except the cutoff date on blood being drawn. Urine and blood being drawn right after the fight should have been fine but Floyd wouldn't go for it. He wanted to change the rules and Pac wasn't having it. This does not prove Manny ever used any PED's, only that Floyd isn't calling the shots.

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                • #68
                  Roach knows he can't come up with any "medicine" to deal with floyd's "sick" boxing skills.

                  Real fans know the truth,except these few idiots on this forum !!

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                    Once again you're not answering the question. Besides the smear campaign initiated by the Mayweather family, what has changed since Pac beat Cotto and Floyd said he could whoop Pac? In other words why did Floyd think he could beat him then, but not now?

                    Next, why did Floyd never ask for these tests previous to the Pac talks if his life and career were at stake? Why not ask it of Marquez who you already said beat Manny twice? Why not of Oscar who he was moving up against? Instead he decides to slander a fighter he had already claimed he would beat and than ask for a test from out of the normal protocol test from a man who never tested positive for anything. Why did his team feel the need to slander instead of just asking for the test?
                    no smear. they are speaking out publicly that they feel pac is on something.

                    pac eating cottos shots and but getting rattled by JMMs. pac punishing cotto but not JMM.

                    he didnt feel the fighters he faced previously were on anything, he feels pac is based on this "growth" and performeance over the last couple years.

                    norm test by NSAC are pointless.

                    no slander. even shane said that SR said he felt pac was on something as they were watching the COtto/Pac fight together.

                    and they asked for the test, if pac wanted to shut them up, all he had to do was prove them wrong. all he did was bring scrutiny upon himself b/cof his own actions

                    have anymore EXCUSES?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                      Pac agreed to almost everything except the cutoff date on blood being drawn. Urine and blood being drawn right after the fight should have been fine but Floyd wouldn't go for it. He wanted to change the rules and Pac wasn't having it. This does not prove Manny ever used any PED's, only that Floyd isn't calling the shots.
                      then he didnt agree to everything nor did he agreed to testing at the end of the day

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