Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Mosley, Mayweather Revisited, De La Hoya Too

[p4p-champ]

Arum will supports any cheater, he doesn't give a **** about the sport. He just cares about whats good for his pocket. He'll never admit to any of his Top Rank fighters using PEDs but once they leave Top Rank....its a another story.

[odogg8121]

So basically Arum is saying that Hoya was roiding and Arum himself supported it at the time, great.

That pretty much how I'm reading it...which also makes me think he knows some1 else is on the stuff too.

[Sugar Q]

As a huge fan of Shane Mosley I must say this is why he will never beat Floyd because he is too ****** with his decision making. Once again you go against your promoter and say I will fight Pacroid with or without testing. Too bad he's gonna lose to PBF cause then we would have to sit through the welter-roid championship. Thank God Floyd will smack Mosley down and help clean up boxing in the interim. Arum likes anybody willing to go along with his BS. Nobody but and idiot wants to see 2 roided up fighter go at it cause that's just what we would get with no testing required. How can anybody be a fan of this new cheating ass Pacroid? He's a fake!!!!!! Please tell my why else wont he prove his innocence?

[TOBYLEE1]

No problem mate, Am not accusing manny or Arum of anything, All am said was Arum was the one who came out with the needle excuse, And trust me Team Pacquiao DID come out with the "He was scared of needle thing" until someone pointed out Pac's tatoos.

Arum also states that ppl are just putting a spin on the subject, so is he. And like you said before ppl just run with whatever is printed instead of doing research. When you try to explain how PED works all the sudden you are a hater, Dr wannabe or making excuses. Most times ppl will take only the facts that supports their ideals or opinions instead of being objective.

Better testing mandated by the states or governing body will just make the sport better on a even level playing field for all fighters

[Lorily]

I don't claim to be an expert on PED's or be a boxing historian or anything, so bear with me while I give my OPINION. What comes to my mind with the whole steroid debacle is something I haven't read anyone talking about.... the very reason that Manny was taking a blood test for the Morales fight was because they (Morales camp) either were su****ious or accusing Manny of steroid use way back then. Then supposedly the test results were lost and they had to re-test the day before (or day of, not sure) of the fight. There is no way Manny could have known that he would be tested again after the first blood draw, so in the opinions of some fans over this issue, could have just resumed taking PEDS (isn't that the arguement of the fans about the cut off date of the blood test?) after he was tested for what he thought was the final time. What doesn't seem to get mentioned is the fact that he still tested negative after a surprise blood test only minimal hours before the fight - and subsequently was his first loss in 6 years/16 fights later, in which he said he felt weakened.

[Sugar Q]

Arum will supports any cheater, he doesn't give a **** about the sport. He just cares about whats good for his pocket. He'll never admit to any of his Top Rank fighters using PEDs but once they leave Top Rank....its a another story.

Your absolutely right Bob Arum knows exactly whats going on but he doesnt give a damn and will do anything for the sake of his pockets. He doesnt have Don King to hide behind right now so everybody should clearly see him for the snake that he always was.

[Sugar Q]

I don't claim to be an expert on PED's or be a boxing historian or anything, so bear with me while I give my OPINION. What comes to my mind with the whole steroid debacle is something I haven't read anyone talking about.... the very reason that Manny was taking a blood test for the Morales fight was because they (Morales camp) either were su****ious or accusing Manny of steroid use way back then. Then supposedly the test results were lost and they had to re-test the day before (or day of, not sure) of the fight. There is no way Manny could have known that he would be tested again after the first blood draw, so in the opinions of some fans over this issue, could have just resumed taking PEDS (isn't that the arguement of the fans about the cut off date of the blood test?) after he was tested for what he thought was the final time. What doesn't seem to get mentioned is the fact that he still tested negative after a surprise blood test only minimal hours before the fight - and subsequently was his first loss in 6 years/16 fights later, in which he said he felt weakened.

The test Manny took for Morales was for HIV not a PED but when people started suspecting something funny going on with Manny they wanted to refer to the blood sample that's when it mysteriously disappeared. So your blood test theory is useless.

[M.I Truth ?]

I don't claim to be an expert on PED's or be a boxing historian or anything, so bear with me while I give my OPINION. What comes to my mind with the whole steroid debacle is something I haven't read anyone talking about.... the very reason that Manny was taking a blood test for the Morales fight was because they (Morales camp) either were su****ious or accusing Manny of steroid use way back then. Then supposedly the test results were lost and they had to re-test the day before (or day of, not sure) of the fight. There is no way Manny could have known that he would be tested again after the first blood draw, so in the opinions of some fans over this issue, could have just resumed taking PEDS (isn't that the arguement of the fans about the cut off date of the blood test?) after he was tested for what he thought was the final time. What doesn't seem to get mentioned is the fact that he still tested negative after a surprise blood test only minimal hours before the fight - and subsequently was his first loss in 6 years/16 fights later, in which he said he felt weakened.

The test you are talking about wasnt for PEDs. It was a blood test for HIV and other illnesses that can be transmitted through blood. It also requires more blood to be drawn than a PED test would.

[icebergisonfire]

So basically, when Oscar was with Arum, Arum knew he was on something and covered it up. Now that he is gone, he wants to insinuate Oscar was on something. So, if Oscar was on the sauce with Arum, Margarito is a Top Rank fighter and Roach was with Toney when he was on steroids, Floyd would be a fool to not ask. There is no telling what a boxer from Top Rank is coming into the ring with since the boss doesn't have any ethics.

[grownfolk.us]

Imo

Just want to fight Mosley cause the fight would be huge if he beats Floyd. On top of that Mosley still wouldn't request a split purse!