Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Mosley, Mayweather Revisited, De La Hoya Too

[AFighter4U]

Its Tested For and its Banned in Nevada.

De La Hoya was given a shot of Lidocaine the day of the injury to numb the cut area so the stitches could be taken. Lidocaine is a substance banned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. But Marc Ratner, CEO of the commission, said there is no violation as long as De La Hoya informed the commission when he took it and why.

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Kizer confirmed yesterday that lidocaine is banned for use by boxers within a week of a bout. “If lidocaine is injected,” he said, “the pain receptors in the boxer may not work and he may not know if he is hurt.” He also confirmed that lidocaine would be tested for after the bout, at the Quest Diagnostics laboratory in the city.

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Nevada boxing officials said yesterday they would fine and probably suspend Lloyd Honeyghan. They said the British fighter tested positive for the painkilling drug lidocaine after losing his World Boxing Council welterweight title to Marlon Starling on Feb. 4.

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/18/sp...l?pagewanted=1

Tested as far back as 1989

Just stop, you dont know what you're talking about. Thats why no in the real Media cares about this or anyone in Boxing or Arum or Team Pac.

There is no evidence that Floyd used xylocaine IN A FIGHT, since he passed all the tests given him.

But it is a fact that he DID USE IT AT SOME POINT IN HIS CAREER.

Is Xylocaine a PED?

We can argue about this till the end of eternity but it won't change the fact that it is TREATED AS A PED.

Why else is it banned at least one week before a fight?

In fact, the Hatton camp went so far as to ask Keith Kizer himself to guarantee them that Floyd won't be using Xylocaine when he fought Hatton.

All i can say is that Xylocaine is a DRUG that is treated as a PED.

[mrjoeblive]

this commission stuff again?

those who accussed pacquiao of using drugs are the very people who are dying of envy of pac's present status in boxing. but they have no proof because pac is clean all his life. delahoya and chicken floyd opened their mouth out of envy for the man. delahoya, has an axe to grind against pac because he never won a round against a fighter almost half his size. his lose to pacquiao was the most humiliating defeat. chicken floyd is so afraid to fight pac because he knew he will surely get knock out if he fight pacquiao.

chicken floyd should go to the nevada commission or shut his stinking mouth.

i really laugh at the reference to, floyd should go to the commish to change the rules. pac and roach inserted a 10 million penalty for EVERY pound over wt. they didnt lobby for a rule change. anything can be added at contract negotiation time. and most times they are. this can be settled between the fighters. they can add anything to the contract they want. ie massive penalty for each pound over wt. they can make this fight happen. but the question is do they want to?

[DE100]

There is no evidence that Floyd used xylocaine IN A FIGHT, since he passed all the tests given him.

But it is a fact that he DID USE IT AT SOME POINT IN HIS CAREER.

Is Xylocaine a PED?

We can argue about this till the end of eternity but it won't change the fact that it is TREATED AS A PED.

Why else is it banned at least one week before a fight?

In fact, the Hatton camp went so far as to ask Keith Kizer himself to guarantee them that Floyd won't be using Xylocaine when he fought Hatton.

All i can say is that Xylocaine is a DRUG that is treated as a PED.

Its treated as a PED if its used as a PED, Floyd has never used it as a PED he has used it legally to treat his hands and nothing else, not to pound someones head during a fight.

[mrjoeblive]

Erm... He's Manny's promoter. Its his job to defend his charge. Also, i don't ever remember Manny's side saying he's afraid of needles. He's been taking all the tests asked from him for YEARS without any problems whatsoever. He even allowed himself to be blood tested two days before the morales fight in which he lost. What he's afraid of is having blood taken from him, any amount so close to a fight.

As for the name calling, i apologize. (though i don't consider it name calling but i'm sorry nevertheless)

a few things,1st it did come from manny's camp that he was afraid of needles that brought derision from several writers that said,"well how did he get all those tatts on his body" then it became taking blood will weaken him and thats what cost him the morrales fight. well i rember that fight well as i was rooting for manny and the excuse after the fight was the type of gloves used prevented morrales from feeling manny's power. they called the gloves "pillows" not once did they say anything about being weakened by blood test. also every fighter passed the urine test except vargas so urinalysis is just not enough these days. but, i do give you MAD props for issuing an apology that was wayyyyyyy cool

[mrjoeblive]

Point taken. My bad.

there are not many people on this site that will provide evidence that they were wrong and then admit they were wrong. you just did both and that again prompts me to give you maaaaddddddddddd props. good post

[decipher]

How about a commision for coward fighters. It a sore in boxing world that we see pretenders not fighting their own size.

stfu ignorant ***!

[MindBat]

Thats a new one: Having trouble finding the Vein, is a main issue on why blood testing is no good.

It's not really new, it's the latest excuse from good ol' Bob.

[mrjoeblive]

Theres no doubt that mayweather wins the fight with mosley. As everyone should know that mosley is a part owner of goldeboy promotions,so losing this figth will gain mosley more money than winning. So this fight is just a ploy , business is business.
So mr mosley will just give this fight to maywaether to gain more hype leverage against pacquaio ..of course gain more money...
Hooray for mr dela hoya and company what a smart move......

first, just because shane is a gbp partner does not mean he's not one of the ultimate competitors. you say shane will lose just to hype up the most popular ppv boxer on the planet? i dont buy that and you really dont either!

[testicularkabob]

There is no evidence that Floyd used xylocaine IN A FIGHT, since he passed all the tests given him.

But it is a fact that he DID USE IT AT SOME POINT IN HIS CAREER.

Is Xylocaine a PED?

We can argue about this till the end of eternity but it won't change the fact that it is TREATED AS A PED.

Why else is it banned at least one week before a fight?

In fact, the Hatton camp went so far as to ask Keith Kizer himself to guarantee them that Floyd won't be using Xylocaine when he fought Hatton.

All i can say is that Xylocaine is a DRUG that is treated as a PED.

if you put xylocaine on ur **** you could fck all nite...

[jayhova29]

i really laugh at the reference to, floyd should go to the commish to change the rules. pac and roach inserted a 10 million penalty for EVERY pound over wt. they didnt lobby for a rule change. anything can be added at contract negotiation time. and most times they are. this can be settled between the fighters. they can add anything to the contract they want. ie massive penalty for each pound over wt. they can make this fight happen. but the question is do they want to?

I agree, pacquaio had his demands and mayweather signed his part of the contract, but pacquiao refused the random blood testing, and if Bob Arums stance is that sometimes you go to have blood drawn and the nurse cant find the vein. Pleeeeeeeeease, as ripped as Pac man is i challenge a nurse to tell me they cant find a vein on him. Then he goes on to say that as a result, it might take 2 to 3 days for pacquaio to recover, its almost like they feel mayweather is picking on him and he's volunteering to do the same thing too. I am a fan of both fighters, but this whole drug testing issue, and pacquiao's refusal to comply to what most people think is a fair 14 days cut-off has to raise eyebrows.

Look at who made more demands, and who gave in more and it seems like Mayweather wanted this fight more than pacquiao. take it from the beginning, 1st. Mayweather wanted a 60-40 split, Bob Arum (not Pacquiao) said no way 50-50 or they walk, so mayweather excepted. 2nd, Mayweather wanted the fight to take place at 154lbs, which is ludicrous considering pacquiao never weighed more than 147 for any fight, Mayweather agreed. 3rd, mayweather wanted to use 10oz gloves, he says because of his brittle hands, why pacquiao wanted to use the standard 8oz, Mayweather agreed to 8oz. 4th, Pacquiao's team included a ridiculous 10million dollar per pound, every pound mayweather is over during the weigh in. Personally i dont think anybody from Pacquaio's camp expected mayweather to agree to that, and he did.

The minute Mayweather asked for random blood testing, team pacquiao seemed to have forgot that team mayweather was accommodating all there demands. People are saying that mayweather didnt want the fight and that he used blood testing to get out of it, then my question is how did mayweather know that manny was going to refuse to take the test after he agreed to everything team pacquaio's team asked.

Before i get 25 responses calling me a *****, im a fan of both fighters, but i dont know anybody thats clean that would turn down a 40million dollar blood test.