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  • Warden11
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    #21
    Originally posted by The Pretender
    I beleive Ruiz would beat Toney in a fair rematch and providing he fights his own fight rather than to excite the fans.

    Do you know how he excited the fans? BY LOSING.

    I personaly think the only reason Ruiz foguht that way was becasue he didn't feel Toney was a threat. How wrong he was. I HIGHLY doubt that he would have gave a crap about impressing the fans if he was fighting Kiltshcko. He would have been his old Huggy Bear self.

    Also just a quick question. Fans love great fighters no matter what so why did Ruiz have to change his style to excite the fans?

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    • tys0n
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      #22
      Lets say toney tests come back and he did not use any illegal substances do you think this will kind of take away from him becoming heavyweight champ? because some people will just associate him with being accoused of taking some illegal substances. i would hate to see something like this happen to him if he won fair are square.

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      • The Pretender
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        #23
        Originally posted by Warden11
        Steriods does not make you a better fighter. Toney beat him flat out on juice or not.
        WRONG. Anabolic steroids increase red cell count. That increases stamina through oxygen carrying efficiency. Show me one boxer or trainer who will say stamina isn't a huge factor in ANY fight.

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        • Warden11
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          #24
          Originally posted by The Pretender
          WRONG. Anabolic steroids increase red cell count. That increases stamina through oxygen carrying efficiency. Show me one boxer or trainer who will say stamina isn't a huge factor in ANY fight.

          Toney dominated from start to finish. He was too quick and too smart for Ruiz plan and simple.

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          • Warden11
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            #25
            All the big great champ Ruiz had to do was hit him, steriods does NOTHING for your chin. Toneys reflexes are simply to fast for slow ass one jab hug Ruiz. Ruiz had 12 rounds and he simply got dominated in them.

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            • The Pretender
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              #26
              Excuses excuses. Ruiz got his belt back because Toney cheated. End of story.

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              • Warden11
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                #27
                Originally posted by The Pretender
                Excuses excuses. Ruiz got his belt back because Toney cheated. End of story.

                Theres no excuses Toney still won the fight.

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                • Truth
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TheGreat1
                  If these allegations are true then it is truly a sad day for Toney fans like myself. A lot of people dislike Toney because he is a **** talker and his physical appearance isn’t the greatest. I on the other hand have always appreciated his boxing skills and dedication to the sport. James has superior skill, matched by only a few, and brings character to the sport. But if these charges are found to be true, Toney should be stripped of the Title and the title vacant. Ruiz and the # 3 contender should have a shot at it. Don’t get me wrong I hope and would like to believe that Toney wouldn’t knowingly do anything like this, but if he did then he should be punished. Another thing all the Ruiz fans out there need to be true to themselves and understand that with our without any enhancing drugs Ruiz couldn’t beat Toney on his best day. They should just be happy that Ruiz may have another shot at the title against someone may actually be able to beat.
                  I hear you, hopfulley Toney can some how rebound from this.

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                  • The Pretender
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Warden11
                    Theres no excuses Toney still won the fight.
                    Oh really? Where did his belt go?

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                    • Warden11
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The Pretender
                      Oh really? Where did his belt go?

                      Back to huggy bear. Like I said though no excuses, at least from me anyway. Whats the need to make an excuse Toney won the fight.

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