Can someone explain the Adamek/Estrada fight?

[mangler jr]

I didn't see the fight, but I keep hearing murmurs that Estrada may have been robbed?

I know the scorecards were wide, but Estrada himself said he didn't give more than 3 or 4 rounds to Adamek.

Anyone see this fight? Wtf happened?

[catalinul]

Estrada is just talking.By the looks of things he truly believes he won but he didn't.

He was very competitive but Adamek clearly won.Estrada won anywhere from 2 to 4 rounds.The 115-113 scorecard was to close IMO.

Adamek boxed in the fight using the ring a lot while Estrda was the aggressor.Adamek let his hands go way more while Estrada was waiting to much for the counter.Late in the fight Estrda did start to be more aggressive on the fond of Adamek getting tired(he does not carry the weight as good he thinks) but it was to little to late.

[mangler jr]

Estrada is just talking.By the looks of things he truly believes he won but he didn't.

He was very competitive but Adamek clearly won.Estrada won anywhere from 2 to 4 rounds.The 115-113 scorecard was to close IMO.

Adamek boxed in the fight using the ring a lot while Estrda was the aggressor.Adamek let his hands go way more while Estrada was waiting to much for the counter.Late in the fight Estrda did start to be more aggressive on the fond of Adamek getting tired(he does not carry the weight as good he thinks) but it was to little to late.

How did Adameks body look? Did he seem to fill out better or did he look flabby? Was his handspeed slower? Did he have good power?

Also, do you think if it was a 15 rounder, the outcome would have changed?

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[Earl-Hickey]

Adamek won it, but he looked far from impressive, Estrada didn't look like he had much to offer, and yet somehow he still gave Adamek a hard time, Adamek got tagged too much, and if Estrada had power he would have been in trouble.

[joe strong]

I'm with you.I didn't see it but I've heard both it was close & of course some European bias,ball gazing at the nude beach ***** from vancouver,Canada said it wasn't even close.either way it sounded like adamek won.I'll wait for a copy because everyone has their own style of fight they prefer...example many people thought axel Schulz beat George foreman for running & pity pat punching while I thought foreman won through aggressiveness & powerpunching.everyone sees fights differently.

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[Earl-Hickey]

I'm with you.I didn't see it but I've heard both it was close & of course some European bias,ball gazing at the nude beach ***** from vancouver,Canada said it wasn't even close.either way it sounded like adamek won.I'll wait for a copy because everyone has their own style of fight they prefer...example many people thought axel Schulz beat George foreman for running & pity pat punching while I thought foreman won through aggressiveness & powerpunching.everyone sees fights differently.

It wasn't close, but it wasn't a walk in the park either, everyone seemed to think it would be.

[The Hammer]

Adamek clearly won the fight, Estrada is just being a crybaby.

Adamek outlanded Estrada in every round except one. Any score from 118-110 to 116-112 is acceptable. Even 119-109 is not outlandish.

The 115-113 scorecard indicated a biased judge who was rooting for Estrada - there was no way Estrada won 5 rounds.

[catalinul]

How did Adameks body look? Did he seem to fill out better or did he look flabby? Was his handspeed slower? Did he have good power?

Also, do you think if it was a 15 rounder, the outcome would have changed?

His body looks solid.I thought it looked more solid now at 220,5 than with Golota at 214.But it affected his stamina later in the fight.Usually he gets stronger as the fight goes.
Handspeed-this is what I wanna stress out-even if Estrada generally has fast hands,even if he was in this fight at his absolute best shape I was still sure,convinced and certain Adamek was gonna be faster in hands.He wasnt',absolute shocker to me.Estrada's jab(when he was using it) was getting there,snapping it very fast aswell as the straight right.
His power is there,he never hurt Estrada bnut Jason has a good chin and he rolled with many of the punches unlike Golota who took them flush and we saw what happened.

Don't know if it went 15 what woulda happened.What I can say is that Adamek looked happier the fight was over than Estrada but that doesn'r mean he wouldn't have caught a second wind somewhere.