How would Calzaghe have done against a young Jones and Hopkins?

[General Zod]

Hindsight is a funny thing. Regardless, Ali wasn't shot after Frazier III but such a brutal fight took a lot out of him. And opened him up for subsequent beatdowns. Jones, in my opinion, was never the same after coming down from HW. Especially when you consider he took a lot of punishment in that first Tarver fight. That was a clear sign that his prime was well past him. But I first noticed Jones slowing down back in 2002, when he fought Derrick Harmon and Harmon landed 59% of his powershots. Regardless, the Jones who fought Calzaghe was done-zo. The man has always been gunshy. Against Joe, he couldn't even pull the trigger.

Thanks for the reply

[General Zod]

Joe Calzaghe beat David Starie who beat Clinton woods, woods beat Glen Johnson. Joe Calzaghe didn't need to fight Glen because he beat Starie

Have to love triangular theory;

Carl Froch>Jermain Taylor
Jermain Taylor> Bernard Hopkins
Bernard Hopkins>Antonio Tarver
Antonio Tarver>Roy Jones
Roy Jones>John Ruiz
John Ruiz> Evander Holyfield
Evander Holyfield> Mike Tyson

Therefore we can conclude that:
Carl Froch> Mike Tyson

[-Reason-]

Calzaghe ducked Carl Froch

[General Zod]

Calzaghe ducked Carl Froch

Now your trolling dude, lol

[-EX-]

I think it wudda been competitive but I'd favor Bernard by a decision...

Calzaghe awkwardness would always give Bernard some trouble but Bernard had better stamina in his prime and wouldn't need to complain of "low blows".

[Sick/]

How would Calzaghe have done against a young Jones and Hopkins?
By William Mackay
February 6th, 2010


Recently, I read an article by a writer that seemed to be gloating about the fact that former World Boxing Organization super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe had beaten both Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins during his career. The writer of the article fails to mention that Hopkins was 43 at the time he fought Calzaghe while Jones was a ripe 39-years-old. Calzaghe ended up winning a controversial 12 round split decision over Hopkins in their April 2008 fight, a bout that could very well have gone the other way.

The outcome really doesn’t matter much to me, but what does matter is how badly Calzaghe struggled against the 43-year-old Hopkins. To be sure, Calzaghe was getting up there in age himself at the time that he fought both Hopkins and Jones. Calzaghe was 36 at the time he fought them both. However, Calzaghe was still fighting at a very high level and appeared to have lost very little of his abilities despite his advanced age at the time of those fights.

I think Calzaghe was pretty much the same fighter he was in his earlier years of his career. If anything, Calzaghe probably was a better fighter at this point because he had finally started to step it up in terms of the level of his competition during the latter part of his career. From 1993 to 2006, perhaps the best opponents that Calzaghe faced during that time period was Miguel Angel Jimenez, Byron Mitchell, Charles Brewer, Richie Woodhall, Omar Sheika, Mario Veit, Chris Eubank, David Starie, and Robin Reid. Those were all good fighters, but not the kind of fighters that I would consider anywhere close to being comparable to a prime Jones and Hopkins.

In 2006, Calzaghe started stepping up the level of opposition, facing Jeff Lacy, Sakio Bika, Mikkel Kessler and Hopkins. Jones, by this time in his career, was a shell of the fighter he once was. Still, Calzaghe chose to fight him anyway. Jones has been stopped by Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver in 2004, and soundly beaten by Tarver again in a rematch in 2005.

So how would Calzaghe have done against a prime Jones and Hopkins? In my view, not very good. I don’t really care at what point Calzaghe fought them. Even in Calzaghe’s prime of his career, which I feel was at the very end of it. I think Calzaghe would be hopelessly outclassed by both Hopkins and Jones. I think a younger Hopkins would have had too much power on his shots, and would have given Calzaghe big problems with his inside game.

Calzaghe barely beat an old 43-year-old Hopkins. You can only imagine what the outcome had been if Hopkins was 10 to 15 years younger at the time that he fought Calzaghe. And as for Jones, I think he would totally dominated Calzaghe if Roy was in his 20s, and I can’t see Calzaghe landing a glove on him. A young Jones was faster than Calzaghe, hit harder and was very difficult to hit. I know Calzaghe fans take pride in the fact that Calzaghe was capable of throwing 1000 punches per fight.

However, that crowding style of fighting that Calzaghe used would have been pretty much useless against a fast mover like Jones. I think Calzaghe would have been following Jones around all night long, getting picked off with shots that he would have problems seeing. I think Jones would have knocked Calzaghe down multiple times and stopped him by the 6th or 7th rounds.

As it was, the 39-year-old Jones was still good enough to put Calzaghe down in the 1st round of their fight. And I think Hopkins would have beaten Calzaghe by a lopsided 12 round decision. Hopkins probably wouldn’t have stopped Calzaghe, but he would have likely beaten him up pretty badly.

biased bull****

[royjonessr]

He definately gets ko'd by RJJ, and loses a decision to Bernard

[Jack_DempseyCSC]

with all 3 in their prime

loses a tight unaminous decision with hopkins
gets stopprd by jones in the middle rounds

[Bring It On]

RJJ would have won by KO/TKO.

BHop would have lost by points.

[hookoutofhell]

How would Calzaghe have done against a young Jones and Hopkins?
By William Mackay
February 6th, 2010


Recently, I read an article by a writer that seemed to be gloating about the fact that former World Boxing Organization super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe had beaten both Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins during his career. The writer of the article fails to mention that Hopkins was 43 at the time he fought Calzaghe while Jones was a ripe 39-years-old. Calzaghe ended up winning a controversial 12 round split decision over Hopkins in their April 2008 fight, a bout that could very well have gone the other way.

The outcome really doesn’t matter much to me, but what does matter is how badly Calzaghe struggled against the 43-year-old Hopkins. To be sure, Calzaghe was getting up there in age himself at the time that he fought both Hopkins and Jones. Calzaghe was 36 at the time he fought them both. However, Calzaghe was still fighting at a very high level and appeared to have lost very little of his abilities despite his advanced age at the time of those fights.

I think Calzaghe was pretty much the same fighter he was in his earlier years of his career. If anything, Calzaghe probably was a better fighter at this point because he had finally started to step it up in terms of the level of his competition during the latter part of his career. From 1993 to 2006, perhaps the best opponents that Calzaghe faced during that time period was Miguel Angel Jimenez, Byron Mitchell, Charles Brewer, Richie Woodhall, Omar Sheika, Mario Veit, Chris Eubank, David Starie, and Robin Reid. Those were all good fighters, but not the kind of fighters that I would consider anywhere close to being comparable to a prime Jones and Hopkins.

In 2006, Calzaghe started stepping up the level of opposition, facing Jeff Lacy, Sakio Bika, Mikkel Kessler and Hopkins. Jones, by this time in his career, was a shell of the fighter he once was. Still, Calzaghe chose to fight him anyway. Jones has been stopped by Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver in 2004, and soundly beaten by Tarver again in a rematch in 2005.

So how would Calzaghe have done against a prime Jones and Hopkins? In my view, not very good. I don’t really care at what point Calzaghe fought them. Even in Calzaghe’s prime of his career, which I feel was at the very end of it. I think Calzaghe would be hopelessly outclassed by both Hopkins and Jones. I think a younger Hopkins would have had too much power on his shots, and would have given Calzaghe big problems with his inside game.

Calzaghe barely beat an old 43-year-old Hopkins. You can only imagine what the outcome had been if Hopkins was 10 to 15 years younger at the time that he fought Calzaghe. And as for Jones, I think he would totally dominated Calzaghe if Roy was in his 20s, and I can’t see Calzaghe landing a glove on him. A young Jones was faster than Calzaghe, hit harder and was very difficult to hit. I know Calzaghe fans take pride in the fact that Calzaghe was capable of throwing 1000 punches per fight.

However, that crowding style of fighting that Calzaghe used would have been pretty much useless against a fast mover like Jones. I think Calzaghe would have been following Jones around all night long, getting picked off with shots that he would have problems seeing. I think Jones would have knocked Calzaghe down multiple times and stopped him by the 6th or 7th rounds.

As it was, the 39-year-old Jones was still good enough to put Calzaghe down in the 1st round of their fight. And I think Hopkins would have beaten Calzaghe by a lopsided 12 round decision. Hopkins probably wouldn’t have stopped Calzaghe, but he would have likely beaten him up pretty badly.

you're an idiot if you believe that...