@@ floyd mayweather takes xylocaine @@

[General Zod]

Just because its old, doesn't mean its less important.

Why dont you just ignore all things Mayweather? There are other boxers you know, like Pwill, Bradley etc

[HighUnderground]

I'm not a hater. I read this many times when it first comes out but I voiced out now because Floyd himself said he will try to clean the sport of boxing. But how can it be done when he's the one using something illegal? Plus, regarding the "cleaning of boxing", there's something fishy here: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=354798

You are putting a mild spin on the facts. You say "Floyd is the one using illegal drugs", but we know that when people talk about cleaning up boxing of drug cheaters they are not talking about people who get xylocaine and cortisone shots, they are talking about PEDs like HGH and EPO.

As for the drug testing for the Mosley fight, you are spinning again. The testing is being conducted by the USADA with Olympic standards, and Floyd will comply like anybody else who openly submits themselves for that style of testing.

[AFighter4U]

Afighter, the problem with what you are trying to argue is that Xlyocaine is tested for, and fighters have been reprimanded many times in the past for using it when they were not supposed to.

Floyd has fought in plenty of places besides Vegas and has never dropped a dirty test for any substance in any of his fights. That is a fact.

Now, in my OPINION, xylocaine is not a big deal to begin with, and most people seem to agree with that notion. It really is just a small number of people who seem to still be beating this drum, but I do respect that you can at least have a civil discussion about it.

Yes, i agree with you that Floyd NEVER dropped a dirty test in any of his fights.
But you must also agree with me that he did use Xylocaine in his fights based on the proofs i provided you.

I cannot explain why he got away with using it in spite of its prohibition, nor do i understand why the media doesn't acknowledge this seeming contradiction.

It is also a puzzle to me why few people want to deal with this issue since i believe it puts an unfair advantage for those using it.

Can you imagine facing an opponent who you know DOES NOT FEEL ANY PAIN IN HIS FISTS?

And ditto in your also being civil in our discussion.

[TriPHP]

You are putting a mild spin on the facts. You say "Floyd is the one using illegal drugs", but we know that when people talk about cleaning up boxing of drug cheaters they are not talking about people who get xylocaine and cortisone shots, they are talking about PEDs like HGH and EPO.

As for the drug testing for the Mosley fight, you are spinning again. The testing is being conducted by the USADA with Olympic standards, and Floyd will comply like anybody else who openly submits themselves for that style of testing.

It's a banned substance, why not make it in the list?

No, I'm just asking because I'm confused whether it's Mayweather or the agency to be followed. I'm confused with this phrase in the article: Floyd can dictate the terms of the drug testing. Anything that Floyd wants is all right

[HighUnderground]

Yes, i agree with you that Floyd NEVER dropped a dirty test in any of his fights.
But you must also agree with me that he did use Xylocaine in his fights based on the proofs i provided you.

I cannot explain why he got away with using it in spite of its prohibition, nor do i understand why the media doesn't acknowledge this seeming contradiction.

It is also a puzzle to me why few people want to deal with this issue since i believe it puts an unfair advantage for those using it.

Can you imagine facing an opponent who you know DOES NOT FEEL ANY PAIN IN HIS FISTS?

And ditto in your also being civil in our discussion.

I'm sorry man, but Lampley's "just prior to" comment and a poorly written article from 7 years ago that references third hand information is not enough for me to say that Floyd uses Xylocaine right before he gets in the ring. Saying that is no more fair than somebody saying that Manny is definitely cheating because Teddy Atlas's inside source saw an email that said Manny's side wanted to cover up a positive test. See my point?

If he were to use it in the locker room before he went out to fight, there would be almost no way for him to pass his post fight test unless he used a completely fake sample, and there is no evidence or proof of anything like that. If you want to believe that's what he is doing, then by all means that is your right, but I don't think it adds up.

[Ray*]

Yes, i agree with you that Floyd NEVER dropped a dirty test in any of his fights.
But you must also agree with me that he did use Xylocaine in his fights based on the proofs i provided you.

I cannot explain why he got away with using it in spite of its prohibition, nor do i understand why the media doesn't acknowledge this seeming contradiction.

It is also a puzzle to me why few people want to deal with this issue since i believe it puts an unfair advantage for those using it.

Can you imagine facing an opponent who you know DOES NOT FEEL ANY PAIN IN HIS FISTS?

And ditto in your also being civil in our discussion.

Am sure he felt enough pain to go down against Carlos Hernandez from just hurting his hands. The point still is it legal to use it to protect all boxers hands just not one week before a fight, The NSAC test for this to be sure that it isnt taken a day before a fight, Prior can be 2 weeks before a fight so you saying lampley said Mayweather uses it prior to a fight is way off IMO.

[HighUnderground]

It's a banned substance, why not make it in the list?

No, I'm just asking because I'm confused whether it's Mayweather or the agency to be followed. I'm confused with this phrase in the article: Floyd can dictate the terms of the drug testing. Anything that Floyd wants is all right

Because it's not a black and white issue. Drugs like that are needed to treat injuries during off time and even during training. It's not the same as using drugs like EPO and HGH. The effects of Xylocaine and Cortisone are localized and do not last very long. Also, the more a person uses it, the more tolerant they become and the less effective it is anyway. The idea that it completely numbs your hands from all pain is ridiculous. It's a the****utic drug, not a chemically altering substance.

As for the article, that is just Mosley saying that he doesn't care how it's done. We already know that the USADA are doing the tests Olympic style.

[-The Glove-]

I think my IQ dropped a couple points after reading this thread.

[AFighter4U]

I'm sorry man, but Lampley's "just prior to" comment and a poorly written article from 7 years ago that references third hand information is not enough for me to say that Floyd uses Xylocaine right before he gets in the ring. Saying that is no more fair than somebody saying that Manny is definitely cheating because Teddy Atlas's inside source saw an email that said Manny's side wanted to cover up a positive test. See my point?

If he were to use it in the locker room before he went out to fight, there would be almost no way for him to pass his post fight test unless he used a completely fake sample, and there is no evidence or proof of anything like that. If you want to believe that's what he is doing, then by all means that is your right, but I don't think it adds up.

Well, Roach's statement is a first hand information cuz he himself saw lydocaine injected to Floyd in his fights. He didn't say he HEARD SOMEONE SAY THEY SAW IT.

He saw it himself. And so far, Roach isn't the lying type. Besides, if Roach was lying, i don't think the Mayweather's would allow that to slide.

Yes, it does not add up.

If he was taking it, then why wasn't he caught? Or better yet, why isn't the commission supposedly responsible for preventing this not pressing this issue and asking Roach to clarify an otherwise damning statement?

There is a story behind this and i wish i knew what it was.

Nevertheless, i'm tired and have a big day tomorrow. I apologize HighUnderground but i have to sign off at this point. Its been great discussing civilly with you and i wish that this was the norm.

Good night and take care!

[Ray*]

Well, Roach's statement is a first hand information cuz he himself saw lydocaine injected to Floyd in his fights. He didn't say he HEARD SOMEONE SAY THEY SAW IT.

He saw it himself. And so far, Roach isn't the lying type. Besides, if Roach was lying, i don't think the Mayweather's would allow that to slide.

Yes, it does not add up.

If he was taking it, then why wasn't he caught? Or better yet, why isn't the commission supposedly responsible for preventing this not pressing this issue and asking Roach to clarify an otherwise damning statement?

There is a story behind this and i wish i knew what it was.

Nevertheless, i'm tired and have a big day tomorrow. I apologize HighUnderground but i have to sign off at this point. Its been great discussing civilly with you and i wish that this was the norm.

Good night and take care!