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  • Silencers
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    #31
    Originally posted by El Jesus
    i seriously think he did this to freeze out manny pacquiao win or lose. since mosley is aruably still the biggest money fight next to pacquiao if the fight is close or he loses.

    but you are right.

    one other thing we can both say is that we both agree there has been some matchmaking since 147, however there is nothing cherry picked about this fight, with that said, both you and me can breath easy for actually giving this guy the benefit of the doubt the last 2 years.
    Yeah but how much can they freeze Pacquiao out though? 1 fight? 2 at the most? Pacquiao's career doesn't come to a halt because of this rematch clause, he has other fights out there. Fights that aren't as big as the winner of Mayweather-Mosley but big enough fights that would still make him a substantial amount of money.

    I was actually all ready to say **** Floyd Mayweather had he not signed for the fight with Mosley. But I held off.

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    • iHateThePacMan
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      #32
      even mosley knows he is too old for floyd

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      • Silencers
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        #33
        Originally posted by Remind My Soul
        I don't think Floyd has ever been hungrier IMO. Things like the RA Rugged Man interview, Brian Kenny interview, etc. has shown that Floyd is mad about where he is perceived to be on the boxing scale. I think Floyd will train harder because he knows he's aging and he wants to show the world that he's the king even when he fights guys that are bigger than him.
        I'm not saying Mayweather isn't hungry, I just get the feeling he isn't as hungry as Mosley for this fight, Mosley has been trying to get this fight for a year and he's finally got it.

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        • El Jesus
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          #34
          Originally posted by Silencers
          Nah, sometimes these things are just indicative of a fighter's mindset heading into a fight. I could be making too much out of it but it's the way I see it.
          I know this though Silencers. I believe mayweathers advisers when they say they are coming after the best, because his only choices are really mosley, pacquiao, possibly berto and maybe bradley. those are the only directions he can go, just because he might have reached out to bull**** fights like hatton/campbell/malignaggi, they never happend, so i dont concern myself. i am naive also as i admitted to you in the past.


          also, i think you are making a whole lot out of nothing, right now its still a good, even fight, i see nothing that indicates that neither fighter has any sort of mental advantage, especially since mayweather is on espn/nfl network/sky sports where he has to be tame.

          come 24/7, press conference/boxing media time, we will see a different mayweather like we always do.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Silencers
            I have a feeling Mosley is going to win. He's saying the right things, he seems rejuvenated now with a new head trainer, he's almost as quick as Mayweather, he is more powerful than Mayweather, he's bigger than Mayweather, Richardson will come up with a gameplan, Richardson is no miracle worker but he is a very good trainer. And the signs leading up to the fight has me feeling that Mosley is hungrier for this fight than Mayweather.
            Never went against your analysis before Silencers except if the fighter you are predicting to lose is Pac. Mainly because he is a fellow pinoy.


            Hmmm. Just rewatched Floyd-Coralles again, this is what I expect how this fight will play out minus the KD's and winning all the rounds. That entirely depends though on how Pbf can make Mosley respect him. Or his skills are back, the Jmm fight, IMO, is not really a gauge of his reflexes, skill now. In the Cotto fight, Mosley was hesitant to go in when Cotto was pumping that jab plus his lateral movement created problems for Mosley. Any thought?

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              #36
              Originally posted by El Jesus
              I know this though Silencers. I believe mayweathers advisers when they say they are coming after the best, because his only choices are really mosley, pacquiao, possibly berto and maybe bradley. those are the only directions he can go, just because he might have reached out to bull**** fights like hatton/campbell/malignaggi, they never happend, so i dont concern myself. i am naive also as i admitted to you in the past.


              also, i think you are making a whole lot out of nothing, right now its still a good, even fight, i see nothing that indicates that neither fighter has any sort of mental advantage, especially since mayweather is on espn/nfl network/sky sports where he has to be tame.

              come 24/7, press conference/boxing media time, we will see a different mayweather like we always do.
              It is an even fight, I really think this is a 50/50 fight but I just have a feeling that Mosley will pull it off is all.

              We'll see if I'm making something out of nothing, you could be right.

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              • Dirt McGirt
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                #37
                Originally posted by MurderDeathKill
                This reminds me of that kid who was talking like Baldomir destroyed Clottey but hadn't even watched the fight.
                lol one of the boxrec warriors, after the abuse he got I think its fair to say he'll do some proper research next time haha

                Originally posted by Dirt
                So you're the one who took the username I wanted haha
                lol sorry man!

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                • El Jesus
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Silencers
                  Yeah but how much can they freeze Pacquiao out though? 1 fight? 2 at the most? Pacquiao's career doesn't come to a halt because of this rematch clause, he has other fights out there. Fights that aren't as big as the winner of Mayweather-Mosley but big enough fights that would still make him a substantial amount of money.

                  I was actually all ready to say **** Floyd Mayweather had he not signed for the fight with Mosley. But I held off.

                  Because if mayweather loses, the biggest fight for pac would be mosley, a fight that mayweather could stop.

                  i didint say his career would stop, but he could freeze pac out of an enourmous payday by enacting that rematch clause.

                  sure pac could fight someone else, but would it matter if mayweather and mosley could have a memorable trilogy in the process?

                  Think about pac/clottey, a fight with literally no buzz right now. Pac could get paid, but just like i saw in that movie casino, dudes like pac dont think of themselevs maing 15 million in a fight, they think of it as losing 35 million.

                  This being my opinion. you and me arent ****** rich so who knows.

                  and yes, while i wouldnt say **** floyd mayweather af 15 years, i wouldnt have any reason to come on here and justify his actions. thankfully, like i said, we gave him the benefit of the doubt and god willing he actually came through, and it was me who told you to keep the faith haha

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                  • Silencers
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by tesla_power
                    Never went against your analysis before Silencers except if the fighter you are predicting to lose is Pac. Mainly because he is a fellow pinoy.


                    Hmmm. Just rewatched Floyd-Coralles again, this is what I expect how this fight will play out minus the KD's and winning all the rounds. That entirely depends though on how Pbf can make Mosley respect him. Or his skills are back, the Jmm fight, IMO, is not really a gauge of his reflexes, skill now. In the Cotto fight, Mosley was hesitant to go in when Cotto was pumping that jab plus his lateral movement created problems for Mosley. Any thought?
                    I think I've only really picked against Pacquiao twice in the past few years, doesn't look like I'll be picking against him anytime soon either.

                    I always felt that Mosley could've fought a better fight than he did against Cotto, there was always room for improvement there. He was still trying to power box his way to victory back then. I mean that was pretty much the only way he knew how to fight before he hooked up with Richardson. If that didn't work he'd lose more often that not. I know Mosley has trouble with fighters with good jabs and I'm sure Mayweather knows that as well. I'm putting faith in Richardson to be able to work with Mosley to make him a more complete fighter and not just try to power box his way to victory against Mayweather.

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                    • Sweet Jesus
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Silencers
                      I'm not saying Mayweather isn't hungry, I just get the feeling he isn't as hungry as Mosley for this fight, Mosley has been trying to get this fight for a year and he's finally got it.
                      Different type of hunger. Mosley is hungry because it's one of his last shots, that's it. Floyd is not only hungry to win but he is hungry to defeat not only Shane but all his haters in one fell swoop. I see Mayweather facing more adversity and he performs best when more and more **** is hovering over him.

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