Clottey. The guy who lost to Baldomir.

[SuperTrooper]

Champions are made in the ring homie not by a sports writer. Pac is a champion because of ring accomplishments not because of some fat a$$ racist sport writers. Majority of the same writers will try every angle to discredit Floyd Mayweathers ring accomplishments but his world titles, record, & PPV records speak volumes.

You're so delusional that it's not even worth having a discussion with you. Carry on with your HaterFree ways.

[Haterfree]

You're so delusional that it's not even worth having a discussion with you. Carry on with your HaterFree ways.

I keep making you feel ****** because you can't argue against facts. Some advice. State some real facts in a debate & you won't look so ******.

[tesla_power]

Where the f.uck is the ts?

He went home to actually watch the fight Roger.

[MidnightBliss]

This T.S is whack...

Ill state some facts right here...

Manny Pacquiao:

1) WBC World Lightweight champion,
2) WBC World Super Featherweight champion,
3) IBF World Super Bantamweight champion,
4) WBC World Flyweight champion,
5) Ring Magazine Featherweight champion,
6) Ring Magazine Super Featherweight Champion,
7) Current WBO World Welterweight champion　

8) Ring Magazine The Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year,
9) Ring Magazine's Fighter of the Decade Award,
10) 2006 and 2008 Boxing Writers Association Of America Fighter of the Year,
11) 2006 and 2008 SecondsOut.com Fighter of the Year,
12) 2008 and 2009 The Ring Magazine #1 Pound For Pound (year-end),
13) 5-Time PSA Sportsman of the Year,
14) 2008 and 2009 BoxingScene.com Fighter of the Year,
15) 2008 Sports Illustrated Boxer of the Year,
16) 2008 and 2009 TheSweetScience.com Boxer of the Year,
17) 2008 WBC Boxer of the Year,
18) 2008 Yahoo Sports Fighter of the Year,
19) 2008 ESPN Star's Champion of Champions,
20) 2009 ESPN Fighter of the Year, 　

21) 2009 ESPN Knockout of the Year,
22) 2009 ESPY Awards Best Fighter,
23) 2009 TIME 100 Most Influential People (Heroes & Icons Category),
24) 2009 TIME Magazine cover for November issue,
25) 2009 Forbes Magazine Celebrity 100 (ranked 57th),
26) 2009 HBO Fighter of the Decade,
27) 2009 The SweetScience.com Fighter of the Decade,
28) 2009 Sports Illustrated Fighter of the Year,
29) 2009 The Ring Magazine Knockout of the Year,
30) 2009 World's Greatest Ever Featherweight,
31) 2009 World's Greatest Ever (ranked 2nd),
32) 2009 Bloomberg 100 Most Powerful Athletes(ranked #72 against Floyd's #91),
33) 2009 WBC Fighter of the Year,
34) 2009 Top 20 Highest Paid Atheletes(ranked 6th together with Lebron James and Phil Mickelson)
35) 2000-09 Boxing Writers Association of America(BWAA) Fighter of the Year
36) 2000-09 Boxing Writers Association of America(BWAA) Fighter of the Decade

[SuperTrooper]

I keep making you feel ****** because you can't argue against facts. Some advice. State some real facts in a debate & you won't look so ******.

How are you making me feel ******? You're an idiot for assuming. I never disagreed on anything or claimed Clottey won the fight against Baldomir. You have the same delusional mentality as your idol Floyd. As far as facts, let me see some proof that a majority of boxing writers is discrediting Floyd's accomplishment.

[Haterfree]

This T.S is whack...

Ill state some facts right here...

Manny Pacquiao:

1) WBC World Lightweight champion,
2) WBC World Super Featherweight champion,
3) IBF World Super Bantamweight champion,
4) WBC World Flyweight champion,
5) Ring Magazine Featherweight champion,
6) Ring Magazine Super Featherweight Champion,
7) Current WBO World Welterweight champion　

8) Ring Magazine The Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year,
9) Ring Magazine's Fighter of the Decade Award,
10) 2006 and 2008 Boxing Writers Association Of America Fighter of the Year,
11) 2006 and 2008 SecondsOut.com Fighter of the Year,
12) 2008 and 2009 The Ring Magazine #1 Pound For Pound (year-end),
13) 5-Time PSA Sportsman of the Year,
14) 2008 and 2009 BoxingScene.com Fighter of the Year,
15) 2008 Sports Illustrated Boxer of the Year,
16) 2008 and 2009 TheSweetScience.com Boxer of the Year,
17) 2008 WBC Boxer of the Year,
18) 2008 Yahoo Sports Fighter of the Year,
19) 2008 ESPN Star's Champion of Champions,
20) 2009 ESPN Fighter of the Year, 　

21) 2009 ESPN Knockout of the Year,
22) 2009 ESPY Awards Best Fighter,
23) 2009 TIME 100 Most Influential People (Heroes & Icons Category),
24) 2009 TIME Magazine cover for November issue,
25) 2009 Forbes Magazine Celebrity 100 (ranked 57th),
26) 2009 HBO Fighter of the Decade,
27) 2009 The SweetScience.com Fighter of the Decade,
28) 2009 Sports Illustrated Fighter of the Year,
29) 2009 The Ring Magazine Knockout of the Year,
30) 2009 World's Greatest Ever Featherweight,
31) 2009 World's Greatest Ever (ranked 2nd),
32) 2009 Bloomberg 100 Most Powerful Athletes(ranked #72 against Floyd's #91),
33) 2009 WBC Fighter of the Year,
34) 2009 Top 20 Highest Paid Atheletes(ranked 6th together with Lebron James and Phil Mickelson)
35) 2000-09 Boxing Writers Association of America(BWAA) Fighter of the Year
36) 2000-09 Boxing Writers Association of America(BWAA) Fighter of the Decade

LMAO. You are really ****** to take so much time to make a post that has nothing to with this thread. This thread is about Clottey being paraded as a top of the line WW despite the fact he has lost to all the top WWs he ever fought like Baldomir, Margarito, Cotto.

[FatBastard]

LMAO. You are really ****** to take so much time to make a post that has nothing to with this thread. This thread is about Clottey being paraded as a top of the line WW despite the fact he has lost to all the top WWs he ever fought like Baldomir, Margarito, Cotto.

sigh....If TS had only watched any of these fights.....:3some:

[Haterfree]

sigh....If TS had only watched any of these fights.....:3some:

Look at how many more post I have on this 1 boxing site than you. Look at how much time I spend talking about boxing, passionately debating boxing & reviewing different fighters accomplishments. If you honestly think I have not watched the fights you are an idiot & if I watched the fight or not it doesn't change the fact that Clottey has lost to mostly all the top WWs he ever fought.

[FatBastard]

Look at how many more post I have on this 1 boxing site than you. Look at how much time I spend talking about boxing, passionately debating boxing & reviewing different fighters accomplishments. If you honestly think I have not watched the fights you are an idiot & if I watched the fight or not it doesn't change the fact that Clottey has lost to mostly all the top WWs he ever fought.

Im not the idiot here.

If you say you watched those fight, then you are the idiot for making this thread.

[Easy-E]

Clottey DID lose to Baldomir, and in legit fashion as well. He was warned about 7 times, and had three points taken away before he was DQ'd. A completely just decision.


And anyone who says Clottey is a top five welter needs to re-evaluate their ranking system.

Mayweather
Pac
Cotto
Mosley
Berto.

Clottey is a GOOD fighter, dont get me wrong. But the dude is coming of a loss and has done nothing in his career to show he is capable of beating world class opp.