The Gameplan that Roach inplemented againest Floyd Mayweather heavily relyed on....

[FLYBOY]

Floyd won't go on the ropes too much.

Shane Mosley will start strong and fast, win the first couple of rounds but then Mayweather will adjust and outbox him and probably win a Split decision or something. It will be a very very close fight.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

Exactly what I was thinking, you just said it much better.

I Don't think an ordinary left hook will do. Mayweather always anticipates the left hook after he rolls to his right. I think something like the punch Oscar used to throw, he called them 45's, something between a hook and an uppercut. I figured Mosley should aim for the solar plexus or chest area, that way if Mayweather rolls back to his left, the punch might graze his body and possibly clip Mayweather right on the chin, if Mayweather decides to stay in the pocket, Mosley should be able to slip in some vicious body shot. Sounds good in theory.

What do you think about Mosley throwing a looping right to Mayweather's left kidney area when he rolls to his right?

Its there to be taken but its cheap, dirty, and dangerous.

[RisAri0]

I think mosley's gameplan would be roughing floyd on the inside. Richardson and Hopkins I bet showed Shane a few tricks. They gonna try to take floyd off his game, take his mentality away which is probably impossible. But if anyone can do it, its Shane. A lil' bit of what Ricky Hatton did, but alot smarter, quicker, and stronger.

[freedom213]

A good right hand. (Which Mosley has)

If you remember the 24-7 for Oscar-Mayweather, you will remember that Roach was trying to develop Oscar's right, because Roach feels that Floyds shoulder roll is open to a right down the pipe.

Do you guys think Mosley will be able to have success with the right?? I mean Oscar did land it a few times, and so did JMM.

What's your take? Is the shoulder roll a invite for a right?

no one is better at avoiding straight rights than Mayweather, that said Mosley actually has the type of right (with a bit of a loop) to get to Floyd. Judging from the Marquez fight Mosley will need to land early and often to the body to take some of Mayweathers movement away otherwise FMJ will likely be able to use movement to control the tempo and distance.

[Gonzalez_Boxing]

Its there to be taken but its cheap, dirty, and dangerous.

I agree. I'd be surprised if he doesn't take advantage of it a few times.

I think Mosley should definitely invest i right hands to the body. Mayweather usually uses his left arm to cover his ribs, but sometimes he leaves that area open, its one of the few holes in his defence and Mosley has to take advantage of every opportunity he gets.

[!! Shawn]

I agree. I'd be surprised if he doesn't take advantage of it a few times.

I think Mosley should definitely invest i right hands to the body. Mayweather usually uses his left arm to cover his ribs, but sometimes he leaves that area open, its one of the few holes in his defence and Mosley has to take advantage of every opportunity he gets.

The problem with that, is that it doesn't seem to have any effect. Some fighters just aren't vulnerable to body shots. Look how Muhammad Ali let George Foreman **** his body for 8 rounds with no effect.

[northstar]

Mosley has a phenomenal Jab, Mosley is the only fighter I know of who has scored a legitimate KD with the jab. His problem is that he gets in the habit of flicking it out to hide a right hand behind it. The way he used the Jab against Margarito was brilliant. Upstairs, downstairs, stiff, flicking, everything.

You are right though, the Jab is the key to beating Floyd, its not being tricky, or sneaky, that will only work once, then Floyd will catch on.

Mosley needs to use his Jab, use his angles, and use his body punching.

Floyd loves to Jab to the body over and over and over, then come with a left hook upstairs. Thats his game. Mosley needs to be willing to take those body jabs and shoot a right hand over the top of every single one.

Taking that weapon away from Floyd basically neuters his offensive arsenal. As much as he loves to pot shot right hands, its something he only does once he is in control of a fight, and the way he gets in control? His body jab.

Take that away, and he struggles.

That's a very good observation. It should be noted that most of the extremely fast boxers judah, jones, berto even mayweather don't use the jab that often or in conventional fashion. Their speed allows them to get away with it.

In most cases mosley's natural speed advantage, which he has over most of his opponents, allows him to get away with not throwing an effective jab. In the cotto fight even without throwing an effective jab he was still able to hit cotto pretty cleaning.

The Margarito fight showed that he can use it effectively. It wasn't only shane's ability to land it that was impressive, it was his ability to throw it with conviction. Something that we don't see him do too often.

In fighting floyd, mosley for the first time will be fighting someone who is just as fast or faster than himself. This most likely will force him to use his jab more effectively.

[AllEyesOpen]

I was watching Mosley/Margarito last night and i couldn't see the great jab people were talking about. Mosley would just flick out the jab and half the time it would hit air or glove, the only time he would really throw it hard was when it was aimed at the body. The jab was used effectively by Mosley to blind Marg and get him out of position for the right hand, but it was ineffective on it's own. Although Mayweather doesn't use it often he has a very solid jab to both the head and body,something i believe would be the key to keeping Mosley off of him.

[Gonzalez_Boxing]

The problem with that, is that it doesn't seem to have any effect. Some fighters just aren't vulnerable to body shots. Look how Muhammad Ali let George Foreman **** his body for 8 rounds with no effect.

I thought about that. I've only seen about 10 Mayweather fights, but the ones I have, he doesn't seem phased by body shots.

I doubt he's going to take Mayweather out with a body shot, but its one of the few punches he can land clean. Even though it might not hurt him as much as we think, I doubt Mayweather wants Mosley taking hard shots at his body every time he rolls to his right. It should be good for scoring purposes and it might give Mayweather something to think about before he rolls right.

Can't wait to see how this fight plays out.

[Gonzalez_Boxing]

Here's Marquez landing that 45 degree punch I was talking about. Watch the combo at the 1:50 mark. Marquez flurries, misses with the right and left, then holds his right hand above Mayweathers head for a split second so Mayweather doesn't roll back up, then lands that 45. Beautiful sequence by Marquez.