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    #51
    Originally posted by daydachamp
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    if all that mattered were the money, then bill gates would be the best boxer.
    muhammad ali used to say he'd face liston for free.
    manny pacquiao done became p4p#1 by beating guys floyd beat, more impressively. so, what's to stop pacquiao from fighting either of the losers? ...goldenboy chickendom
    muhammad ali and manny pacquiao fought for money just like everyone else.

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      #52
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      That is true but I am pretty sure Bob Arum doesn't think that way. Besides he is a bitter old man, greed is probably what keeps his heart going and will into the future (possibly long into). Once he stops caring about money he probably dies shortly after.
      i love uncle bob.

      couldn't imagine top rank without him. couldn't imagine boxing without him.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Gurkha
        i love uncle bob.

        couldn't imagine top rank without him. couldn't imagine boxing without him.
        He is alright if you understand where he is comming from and if you don't take him to seriously. He is good at what he does though no doubt.

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          #54
          Originally posted by The Gambler1981
          He is alright if you understand where he is comming from and if you don't take him to seriously. He is good at what he does though no doubt.
          he tries to make the most money possible. that's his job. people just can't understand that.

          he's greedy but not criminal level like don king.

          people talk about how greedy bob is but facts are facts.

          most of arum's biggest names made tons of money. king's biggest names not so much.

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            #55
            Golden Boy should just threaten Floyd with this option so he signs the damn papers. No way Floyd lets Pac and Shane make money while he sits around and waits for a fight he may never get.

            There is no damn reason for Floyd not to have signed the papers yet, this is ridiculous.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Gurkha
              he tries to make the most money possible. that's his job. people just can't understand that.

              he's greedy but not criminal level like don king.

              people talk about how greedy bob is but facts are facts.

              most of arum's biggest names made tons of money. king's biggest names not so much.
              Like I said Arum is like Hymon Roth from the Godfather.

              My problem usually isn't what Bob says because I understand why he says things although sometimes he is just being a bitter old man that is usually when he talks about Floyd since Floyd got over on him and I am sure he does not value Floyd's intelligence so for someone like taht to get over on him must be one of his career low points.

              It is usually when others use what Arum talks about in arguements because they bring it up with no context as to why he says certain things.

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                #57
                ali was the greatest of all times.
                show me the guy who's sole reason to fight is money, without a desire to thrill onlookers with skill, and i'll show you a boxer who will never reach ali's stature.
                even if i concede a point that boxers wish to get paid, why would a loss by ssm or fmm eliminate a chance fight. excuses. excuses. excuses.

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                  #58
                  Pacquiao will fight all the Welterweights Floyd ducked.

                  Cotto, Clottey, Margarito and Mosley.

                  Floyd doesn't even have the balls to fight even just 1 of them

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by daydachamp
                    ali was the greatest of all times.
                    show me the guy who's sole reason to fight is money, without a desire to thrill onlookers with skill, and i'll show you a boxer who will never reach ali's stature.
                    even if i concede a point that boxers wish to get paid, why would a loss by ssm or fmm eliminate a chance fight. excuses. excuses. excuses.
                    actually ali didn't thrill much in his later years.



                    a loss wouldn't stop a fight from happening , it'll hurt them financially though.

                    boxing is a sport for us but a business for them.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                      Like I said Arum is like Hymon Roth from the Godfather.

                      My problem usually isn't what Bob says because I understand why he says things although sometimes he is just being a bitter old man that is usually when he talks about Floyd since Floyd got over on him and I am sure he does not value Floyd's intelligence so for someone like taht to get over on him must be one of his career low points.

                      It is usually when others use what Arum talks about in arguements because they bring it up with no context as to why he says certain things.
                      i understand where arum is coming from when it comes to floyd. (with delahoya too)

                      arum invested in them. it takes money to promote boxers. boxers rarely start making promoters money from the get go.

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