Comments Thread For: Roach Breaks Downs Haye vs. Ruiz, Haye vs. Klitschkos

[boxingfan76]

roach isn't the greatest trainer of all time and yes he isn't greater than Dundee and steward but he is till one of the best but not the greatest of all time!!! And when PAC fought ODlH yes he was over the hill and he hadn't have nothing but on paper he should have won the fight..and hatton wasn't the best fighter but he was still good even though he got stopped by floyd he was not shot..him getting ko'd by floyd has nothing to do wit PAC's fight he fought him at Junior welter weight hatton best division and many were saying hatton is gona kill PAC but that was another thing...and yes cotto had a great fight wit tony and yes he had another great fight wit clottey but cotto's got cut and he couldn't see none of the punches coming but he still pulled it out..and when he fought PAC alot people saying cotto was gona ko PAC of his size and punching power and he was fighing very good for the first 5 rounds but then PAC started to break him down and he stops in the 12th but cotto was still the the same fighter he was in great shape for the PAC fight but the better man won...

cotto was a 4to 1 underdog and the consensus was he was a damged fighter after margarito, so nobody was saying pac was going to lose other than cotto fans. hatton was kod by light hittn mayweather almost 2 years b4, then almost ko'd by laszcano, pac is a very hard puncher then he kos hatton and why is that great again??? and cotto didnt have two great fights he got brutally beaten down by tony, the type of loss that doesnt go away and got handily beaten by clottey judges be damned, im sorry pac is a good fighter but hes way way overblown.will all these people say the same about roger mayweather and mayweather or ****mm or mosley even though theyve beat better, and will probably beat pac???? thats what i want to know probably not.

[Wrighty]

What's Roach talking about if Haye "could go and get him out of there like nobody else could". David Tua got him out of there in 18 seconds.

[Konstantin]

What's Roach talking about if Haye "could go and get him out of there like nobody else could". David Tua got him out of there in 18 seconds.

Ruiz had a totally different style back then. He was a normal boxer. It's after that fight that he changed his style to be safer. Since then he's been incredibly hard to stop.

[Illdil]

Boxingfan76 no one is saying floyd isn't a great fighter floyd is up there wit every great fighter in history and roger floyd sr mosley and ****m r great fighter and another great trainer my respect is there but it seems that everyone PAC fight now nowerdays is like not good enough or there old or shot every single one of em!! And yes like I told u hatton isn't the best fighter in the world I made it clear and he was fighting at 147 wit floyd but he couldn't even compeat wit em and yes he was stagerd by lazcano hell he was stagerd by collazo too then and that fight was before the floyd fight and r u saying floyd fought a old hatton too!! Just becuz he got dazed by someone..that's the way hatton fights he comes charging in wit he's hands down and somone is bound to crack him wit a haymaker...and finally cotto..yes he's fight was brutal against tony but wasnt cotto wining the fight before tony started to take over and just cuz he had one brutal fight it doesn't mean your career is over and cotto isn't a mentally week person he'll fight anyone u put in front of him doesn't matter if it a win or a loss he gives everything he's got..and your saying it was not a great fight...it was up there for FOTY candidate wit PAC v marquez etc etc..And going back to your saying cotto was never the same after the margerito fight I don't agree wit that he is still very good and if wasn't still the same fighter he would have retired all ready!! cotto is a throwback fighter and just becuz he lost in a all out war doesn't mean he didn't have anything in him after that fight!!

[Motofan]

Tua killed Ruiz in like 5 seconds. Roach doesnt know what he is talking about.

[Motofan]

He has even been assistant trainer to.... Wlad !!!!! And he has trained Tyson, Toney, Moorer, Collins, Vasquez, Hopkins, DLH,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Yeah late in the careers of most of them as far as training goes. He didnt mold ****. He took a pay check. Pac made him, and when Pac is gone Freddie will go back to being a joke.

[Tiozzo]

Yeah late in the careers of most of them as far as training goes. He didnt mold ****. He took a pay check. Pac made him, and when Pac is gone Freddie will go back to being a joke.

If Pac is where he's at right now, it's thanks to Roach. Pac only had his left hand in the past, he was a brawler, and as soon as he faced boxers who could dodge the left hand, he lost (Morales and Marquez, because it was no draw). Now Pac can box, and he has a right hand, thanks to Roach. He wouldn't have accomplished as much as he has lately without Roach. They're a team.

Btw, Roach did mold Virgill Hill. But it's true he has worked with a lot of already established/great fighters.

[ChopperRead]

Freddie telling it like it is.

Wlad has had a couple of boring fights, but so did Lennox Lewis. I don't find Vitali boring at all. If you come to fight, Vitali will mix it up with you.

[ChopperRead]

Tua killed Ruiz in like 5 seconds. Roach doesnt know what he is talking about.

Freddie likes to run his mouth. Either Klitschko will murder Haye, and it won't be boring.

Freddie would like Wlad a lot more if he was still training him.

[The_Demon]

roach telling it how it is as usual,hes a smart guy