Please stop asking credit for Floyd getting in the ring with Mosley

[War Dinamita]

i give no credit to someone who obviously duck the best fighter in the world for an old out of prime fighter

The same old out of prime fighter is the #1 WW, #3 p4p, champ, most dangerous WW, and the same guy Manny ducked late last year.

Why does Manny need Mosley to come down to 140 if he's fighting at WW? Why does Manny need an old out of prime fighter to come down to 140 if he's not that good?

I'll wait for your reply.

[1toTHADOME]

i actually do give him credits from taking this fight.. even more with mosley with all the effort he put in to land it. i give floyd credit for taking the risk of fighting one of the best, which a real champ should be doing, where his skill sets are up to par with his opponent.

with mosley, he's beast, i cant take nothing away from him. the credits are where its due and i do believe he deserves this fight more then pacquiao.

[War Dinamita]

Props for Floyd for fighting Shane but it did happen due to series of unfortunate events not like it was planned. Mosley signed the contract in a blink of an eye like he didn't even read it, he badly needs to fight either Floyd or Pac and lucky for him, Floyd was available. Had Pac not signed with Clottey, Shane would probably choose him since Pac and Shane fight has more meaning since they're both WW champions.

Is Manny really afraid of Shane or he opted for a younger and still a champion in Cotto? Mosley is old an it's becoming an excuse for some fans here, this is probably the main reason why they opted for Cotto since Pac has been criticized before for fighting shot fighters which I think is ridiculous.

Does 145 and 147 really made a difference for Cotto to make that repeated weight drained issue. A lot of the boxing experts said during the weigh in that he looked in tiptop shape or is it another excuse to discredit pac's achievements.

Why did it take so long for the fight to be made if Mosley signed the contract in a blink of an eye?

The truth is Mosley was too dangerous for Manny last year. Team Pacquiao was not going to risk their biggest payday with Floyd for a fight with Mosley before fighting Floyd first.

Shane wanted to fight Manny first, but Manny rejected his offers at 142 and 140. Manny picked Cotto because Cotto was damaged goods after his fight with Margacheato. Nobody on this site can tell me Cotto was the same fighter he was in his fight with Manny compare to his fight with Margacheato. The fight with Margacheato did more damage mentally to Cotto's mind than people think. He's not the same fighter... you can see it when he fights.

My problem with Manny asking Cotto to fight at 145 is two things... getting a fake ass diamond belt and making the champ fight at 145, when the limit is 147. People get mad at Floyd for his requests, but nobody says anything about Manny. If you want people to give you props and call you the best... let your opponent come in at 147, especially when the limit is 147. Nobody can use the excuse that Manny is too small because he has proven to the world he's a WW.

[tesla_power]

Why did it take so long for the fight to be made if Mosley signed the contract in a blink of an eye?

The truth is Mosley was too dangerous for Manny last year. Team Pacquiao was not going to risk their biggest payday with Floyd for a fight with Mosley before fighting Floyd first.

Shane wanted to fight Manny first, but Manny rejected his offers at 142 and 140. Manny picked Cotto because Cotto was damaged goods after his fight with Margacheato. Nobody on this site can tell me Cotto was the same fighter he was in his fight with Manny compare to his fight with Margacheato. The fight with Margacheato did more damage mentally to Cotto's mind than people think. He's not the same fighter... you can see it when he fights.

My problem with Manny asking Cotto to fight at 145 is two things... getting a fake ass diamond belt and making the champ fight at 145, when the limit is 147. People get mad at Floyd for his requests, but nobody says anything about Manny. If you want people to give you props and call you the best... let your opponent come in at 147, especially when the limit is 147. Nobody can use the excuse that Manny is too small because he has proven to the world he's a WW.

In defense to pac's team ( pac IMO don't give a **** if it is at 147 ) though, they are really wary of cotto and mosley then because they know those are the top 2WW and the delahoya fight is no gauge of pac's ability to fight elite WW's. They chose Cotto because it is much easier to make considering it is Top Rank and arguably money-wise a better option than Mosley. After the Cotto fight, they are now confident that they can take the elites head on. If they ever ask for a CW again at WW, I will no longer defend it.

[1toTHADOME]

147 limit or not, it's just 2 pounds. pacquiao was at 140 and cotto was at 147, they came to an AGREEMENT of 145, so if you think it's ridiculous then you're ridiculous coz really, you're tryna make something out of nothing.

put your shoes in both fighters, that 2 pounds does NOT matter. i wouldnt care if youre 2 pounds heavier or lighter, i'll gladly punch your face in.

[War Dinamita]

147 limit or not, it's just 2 pounds. pacquiao was at 140 and cotto was at 147, they came to an AGREEMENT of 145, so if you think it's ridiculous then you're ridiculous coz really, you're tryna make something out of nothing.

put your shoes in both fighters, that 2 pounds does NOT matter. i wouldnt care if youre 2 pounds heavier or lighter, i'll gladly punch your face in.

If the two pounds does not matter... why did Team Pacquaio tell Cotto he had to come down to 145 if he wanted to fight Manny? We are only talking about two pounds... why make him come down to 145 if two pounds is not a big deal? Apparently it was a big deal to team Pacquiao to tell Cotto to come down to 145 or the fight was off.

How much did Manny weight during the fight?

[1toTHADOME]

owned? you're funny but im far from it.

i believe manny came in at 144 that night. what i was saying is that it shouldnt matter to YOU if its 147 or not. yeah pacquiao's team are the ones that asked for it and i believe its coz he was coming up in weight from 140 and that is reasonable enough for them to ask him to come down just a little bit.

pacquiao wanted this fight as bad as cotto did, so they came to an agreement. TO AN AGREEMENT, where they BOTH agreed on it. which i dont get is, YOU cant agree on it.

[War Dinamita]

owned? you're funny but im far from it.

i believe manny came in at 144 that night. what i was saying is that it shouldnt matter to YOU if its 147 or not. yeah pacquiao's team are the ones that asked for it and i believe its coz he was coming up in weight from 140 and that is reasonable enough for them to ask him to come down just a little bit.

pacquiao wanted this fight as bad as cotto did, so they came to an agreement. TO AN AGREEMENT, where they BOTH agreed on it. which i dont get is, YOU cant agree on it.

Cotto wanted the fight because he wanted to get paid.

Fighters are going to do whatever they can to get a fight with Pacquiao or Mayweather because they want the biggest payday of their life.

Just because they agree on something doesn't mean it's fair. Making Oscar come down to 147 when he's fighting at 154 and his last fight at 147 was 7+ years ago fair?

How is making a past prime boxer come down to 147 fair?

Oscar vs. Manny was a fair fight, lmao.

They can both agree on something, but I don't have to agree with it and it doesn't make it fair.

[sneaky jepoy]

Cotto wanted the fight because he wanted to get paid.

Fighters are going to do whatever they can to get a fight with Pacquiao or Mayweather because they want the biggest payday of their life.

Just because they agree on something doesn't mean it's fair. Making Oscar come down to 147 when he's fighting at 154 and his last fight at 147 was 7+ years ago fair?

How is making a past prime boxer come down to 147 fair?

Oscar vs. Manny was a fair fight, lmao.

They can both agree on something, but I don't have to agree with it and it doesn't make it fair.

Do you think manny made oscar move down to 147? oscar delahoya? the golden boy? think man. delahoya was the one making decisions then. not manny. what was the last weight of manny before fighting oscar?

[nelsoncm]

The same old out of prime fighter is the #1 WW, #3 p4p, champ, most dangerous WW, and the same guy Manny ducked late last year.

Why does Manny need Mosley to come down to 140 if he's fighting at WW? Why does Manny need an old out of prime fighter to come down to 140 if he's not that good?

I'll wait for your reply.

Manny never asked Shane to come down to 140.

It was Shane who desperately offered to fight at 140 for that big fat payday.

Besides, he wanted to beat Cotto in the negotiations.