If Mayweather beats Mosley, Mayweather is P4P KING again

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So wait if Pac losses to Clottey... Clottey is the better it had nothing to do with size?

Im not blaming Pac losing based on size. Thats a cop out. They are both WW's.

[jrosales13]

Im not blaming Pac losing based on size. Thats a cop out. They are both WW's.

OK, in your opinion can Pac make 140 comfortably? Can Clottey make 140 comfortably?

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OK, in your opinion can Pac make 140 comfortably? Can Clottey make 140 comfortably?

I think Pac could get to 140. No Clottey cant.

If Pacs 3 out of his last 4 fights have been at WW.

Im not making excuses for him.

[jrosales13]

But its what everyone goes by. The true meaning most people on this forum dont even know where P4P came from. Or who the first P4P King was or what it meant then.

But now bro P4P means something else. Its way for boxing to have a general consensus on who the best 10 fighters on the planet are. An All things equal P4P list would look like this:

1. Gamboa
2. Rigondeaux
3. Mayweather
4. Pacman
5. Hasegawa
6. Calderon
7. Poonsawat
8. John
9. Donaire
10. Perez/Moreno/Mares

You think Gamboa and Rigondeaux are more skilled than Floyd?

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You think Gamboa and Rigondeaux are more skilled than Floyd?

No. Floyd is the most skilled. Gamboas/ Rigondeaux speed and reflexes are insane. Floyd is not the same fighter he was back in his 130 Pound days. The WW Floyd is a different fighter. Im talking about the Floyd I see now.

Do think Floyd would beat them absolutley. Its just like how I feel Floyd will beat Pac. Eeven though Pac is number 1.

[darkmanx2g]

I agree only if Mayweather knocks Mosely out but if its a decision than he is not p4p.

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Another thing Jro. Williams can make 154 with ease. Pavlik can't. It doesnt mean anything. If Williams lose Im not blaming the loss because Pavlik is bigger. Pav has been as high as 170 Pounds and is talking about going to 168 to fight Butte. Hes clearly bigger then Paul. But I WILL NOT use that as an excuse if my boy loses to Pavlik. Thats a cop out.

[jrosales13]

I think Pac could get to 140. No Clottey cant.

If Pacs 3 out of his last 4 fights have been at WW.

Im not making excuses for him.

But, lets not act like he is not the smaller here... He is just that good that he can compete... I won't make no excuses if he lose... But, if he was the same size natural same weight as Clottey. Then Pac would have even an easier time where he might be able to stop Clottey... And, that is P4P... I know he would lost his spot... But, I don't think... Like I don't know why JMM so much... They need to make room for Floyd... fine but at least put him JMM at #3... Hopkins and Shane for the most part sat out for the year... While JMM fought at a weight-class he didn't belong in... That is why I don't take P4P seriously... I know a lot of people do... But, I don't and I know I am in the minority. I look at other people list, I have my own list but I don't get serious because is really all an opinion...

I look at The Ring top 10 P4P and I disagree with it... I don't see how Caballero can be on it... If you look at BoxingScene top 10 is different from the Ring top 10... Now can anybody who is right and wrong between The Ring and BS? Because is really an opinion is not a fact...

[jrosales13]

Another thing Jro. Williams can make 154 with ease. Pavlik can't. It doesnt mean anything. If Williams lose Im not blaming the loss because Pavlik is bigger. Pav has been as high as 170 Pounds and is talking about going to 168 to fight Butte. Hes clearly bigger then Paul. But I WILL NOT use that as an excuse if my boy loses to Pavlik. Thats a cop out.

[Dirt McGirt]

no not yet wins over cotto and clottey are better then one win over mosley he would have to follow a mosley win with a solid top 5 ww or jm opponent to be undisputed number 1 p4p

I completely agree, a win against Mosley isn't enough. If he wants to regain the top spot he needs to beat another top welterweight.

Just to add to the P4P debate, I think Pacquiao deserves #1 because he has had more impressive victories over better opposition and in my opinion is now equally as skilled as a boxer, if not more. I remember how impressed I was with Mayweather in the lower classes, but Pacquiao has turned into the most impressive boxer I've ever seen.