Ring Magazine Results: "Mayweather vs. All-Time Welterweight Greats"

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  • -Reflexes-
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    #31
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Really now? Now I am just curious fuck this Floyd ****....

    How do you see a fight with Leonard and Burley playing out?

    What about a fight with Armstrong and Gavilan?
    I already said. I cant comment on burley no footage exists of him AT WELTERWEIGHT. I odnt know how good he really was.

    Armstrong and Gavilan I can do.

    Armstrong non stop pressure and hard shots do Gavilans wild swinging ass in. Im not big on Gavilan if you cant tell.My dad forced me to watch these bull**** biography tapes on him. NOT A FAN. His best punch is one of the WIDEST WILDEST shots in boxing. When I watch him he looks like Shane Mosley.

    Armstrong was a midget who did not **** around. He had a great inside game and if he can get inside the taller Gavilan he can punish his ass.

    Armstrong by KO

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    • thatnickuh
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      #32
      Originally posted by Konstantin
      He's a huge welter. A terrific boxer. And for the style that Floyd has employed at WW (pot-shotting) tall rangy guys are more difficult to beat. He actually had a somewhat difficult time against DLH. Similar to Jones Tarver.
      You call it "pot-shotting" which obviously has a negative connotation, but I call it exhibiting excellent defense while accurately counter punching, picking your opponent apart. I didn't see him having any real trouble with DLH, he completely neutralized DLH and basically turned the fight into a glorified sparring session. I had the fight nine rounds to three, with the the three DLH rounds being ones that Mayweather basically took off by laying on the ropes.

      I think that Hearns would be a tough opponent for Mayweather simply because he's a great boxer. I don't see his boxing style presenting any kind of unique problem for Mayweather though. Again, you have to remember that Hearns left the Welterweight division in his mid 20's. Mayweather was fighting at 135 at that age.

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      • jrosales13
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        #33
        Originally posted by thatnickuh
        How many times did Robinson fight at Welterweight? I wasn't aware that he fought that low. Regardless these comparisons are silly. Styles make fights, and athletes have gotten better over time. I don't even see how you compare a Mayweather with a Armstrong. Plus there's the size and age factors. Prime Mayweather isn't a Welterweight. Comparing a prime Leonard or Hearns against a prime Mayweather is a mismatch.
        Ray Robinson fought as low as lightweight...

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          #34
          Originally posted by -reflexes-
          i already said. I cant comment on burley no footage exists of him at welterweight. i odnt know how good he really was.

          Armstrong and gavilan i can do.

          Armstrong non stop pressure and hard shots do gavilans wild swinging ass in. Im not big on gavilan if you cant tell.my dad forced me to watch these bull**** biography tapes on him. Not a fan. His best punch is one of the widest wildest shots in boxing. When i watch him he looks like shane mosley.

          Armstrong was a midget who did not **** around. He had a great inside game and if he can get inside the taller gavilan he can punish his ass.

          Armstrong by ko
          ok.............

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          • thatnickuh
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            #35
            That's what I thought, so why are they calling Robinson a all time Welterweight great?

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              #36
              Originally posted by thatnickuh
              That's what I thought, so why are they calling Robinson a all time Welterweight great?
              What do you mean?

              He fought as low as lightweight and fought as high as light Heavyweight...

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              • Evil Abed
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                #37
                Originally posted by thatnickuh
                That's what I thought, so why are they calling Robinson a all time Welterweight great?
                The man is P4P the greatest fighter who ever lived.

                He was great at every weight he fought at.

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                • Konstantin
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by thatnickuh
                  You call it "pot-shotting" which obviously has a negative connotation, but I call it exhibiting excellent defense while accurately counter punching, picking your opponent apart. I didn't see him having any real trouble with DLH, he completely neutralized DLH and basically turned the fight into a glorified sparring session. I had the fight nine rounds to three, with the the three DLH rounds being ones that Mayweather basically took off by laying on the ropes.

                  I think that Hearns would be a tough opponent for Mayweather simply because he's a great boxer. I don't see his boxing style presenting any kind of unique problem for Mayweather though. Again, you have to remember that Hearns left the Welterweight division in his mid 20's. Mayweather was fighting at 135 at that age.
                  Floyd's style is called pot-shotting. It may have a negative connotation, but only because it is not fun to watch. Mayweather took off rounds? That's a great excuse. How bout DLH won those rounds. Why didn't he take off rounds in the Marquez fight. No, all of a sudden, in the biggest fight of his career he is taking off rounds!

                  Styles make fights in boxing. That's the reason triangle theories can happen. I think tall rangy fighters are the best at dealing with defense first, stay outside the range fighters. Here's why: the range that they need to stay out of is a LOT bigger. And getting inside is a lot harder.

                  With Tommy's great jab and precise power punching I see him laying a beating on Mayweather during a competitive fight.

                  And what about them being at different weight classes at different ages. What are you trying to say?

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                  • -Reflexes-
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Konstantin
                    Floyd's style is called pot-shotting. It may have a negative connotation, but only because it is not fun to watch. Mayweather took off rounds? That's a great excuse. How bout DLH won those rounds. Why didn't he take off rounds in the Marquez fight. No, all of a sudden, in the biggest fight of his career he is taking of rounds!

                    Styles make fights in boxing. That's the reason triangle theories can happen. I think tall rangy fighters are the best at dealing with defense first, stay outside the range fighters. Here's why: the range that they need to stay out of is a LOT bigger. And getting inside is a lot harder.

                    With Tommy's great jab and precise power punching I see him laying a beating on Mayweather during a competitive fight.

                    And what about them being at different weight classes at different ages. What are you trying to say?
                    Mayweather vs. Pryor at 140. Who wins?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by -Reflexes-
                      Mayweather vs. Pryor at 140. Who wins?
                      Mayweather easy. Pryor was a great puncher, not the best boxer.

                      idk why you think I dont like him.

                      He was one of my favorite fighters several years ago. Unfortunately he transformed for the worse.

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