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  • Originally posted by check hook View Post
    I believe your info is wrong......he used all 3 (the cream, the clear and EPO) in the lead up to the first bout.......he admitted it in grand jury testimony and Victor Copnte has gone on record that Shane knew exactly what it was he was doing......like i said Shane came clean and IMO has been a clean fighter ever since......hence mixed performances....i.e. he gassed out against Cotto very early....but pounded Margarito....
    Can you provide a link where Conte said that it was for the first fight? Or the Grand jury testimony that says it was for it in the first fight? Everything I read it was used the rematch... But, I will concede if you can show me a link that it was for the first fight as well...

    And, I didn't think Shane gassed out against Cotto... I thought he was coming on strong and it was Cotto who was getting tired....

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    • Originally posted by check hook View Post
      people rely far too much on compubox to score fights......it's not amatuers...compubox can be very accurate or incredibly misleading (i will provide examples if you wish)

      Oscar wasn't landing anything meaningful at all and i will rewatch and look at the stats after the 7th.....i bet they are in mayweather favour.

      This is pro's we score fights on clean, effective punches.....not pitty pat that hits gloves and shoulders.....

      Oscar won a max of 4 rds in that fight........
      all i know is mayweather looked beat up and oscar didnt at the end of that fight i agree mayweather pulled away at the end ,oscar landed more but it demonstrated if a guy out of his prime could do that, a guy in his prime certainly can beat mayweather an elite guy .

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      • Originally posted by jameshepenstall View Post
        I actually think Mayweather can KO Mosley, my prediction is that by the 10th round, the left side of Shanes face will be pulp and the fight will be called off in the 11th or 12th.
        Burner is this your alt?

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        • Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
          all i know is mayweather looked beat up and oscar didnt at the end of that fight i agree mayweather pulled away at the end ,oscar landed more but it demonstrated if a guy out of his prime could do that, a guy in his prime certainly can beat mayweather an elite guy .
          I only gave Oscar 4 rounds and I thought I was being generous...

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          • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            Can you provide a link where Conte said that it was for the first fight? Or the Grand jury testimony that says it was for it in the first fight? Everything I read it was used the rematch... But, I will concede if you can show me a link that it was for the first fight as well...

            And, I didn't think Shane gassed out against Cotto... I thought he was coming on strong and it was Cotto who was getting tired....


            I will find later....i am at work currently....so should not even be on here.....but im sure u can clarify with a google search......


            You are right he got a second wind in the later rounds....but he looked very tired from round 3 to round 7 or 8...which i though was ridiculous.....

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            • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
              Can you provide a link where Conte said that it was for the first fight? Or the Grand jury testimony that says it was for it in the first fight? Everything I read it was used the rematch... But, I will concede if you can show me a link that it was for the first fight as well...

              And, I didn't think Shane gassed out against Cotto... I thought he was coming on strong and it was Cotto who was getting tired....
              i think delahoya won the 2nd shane fight, delahoya was robbed, he landed alot more than molsey did in the rematch, even down the stretch, the first fight was a clear shane win.all mosley did in the 2nd fight was land body punches here and there.

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              • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                I only gave Oscar 4 rounds and I thought I was being generous...


                exactly......when i said he won 4 max....i actually scored in 9 rds to 3......

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                • Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
                  all i know is mayweather looked beat up and oscar didnt at the end of that fight i agree mayweather pulled away at the end ,oscar landed more but it demonstrated if a guy out of his prime could do that, a guy in his prime certainly can beat mayweather an elite guy .


                  Floyd did not look beat up.....he did not have a mark on his face.....seriously you need to go rewatch this fight a few more times......Delahoya got beaten easily and floyd took even less risks than he usually does......

                  Anyway we are talking about the golden girl a bit too much here...back to SSM and Floyd.....

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                  • Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
                    i think delahoya won the 2nd shane fight, delahoya was robbed, he landed alot more than molsey did in the rematch, even down the stretch, the first fight was a clear shane win.all mosley did in the 2nd fight was land body punches here and there.


                    See that i would agree with....i think he also won the second fight.....though i have not seeen it in a long while

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                    • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                      I only gave Oscar 4 rounds and I thought I was being generous...
                      i honestley dont see how. mayweather didnt land anything till like the 8 round on maybe the 7th other than that mayweather wasnt even connecting let alone being effective, they werent going to rematch because it was a wipeout, even mayweather sr said on camera he felt his son ,lost.mayweather has had 2 times already where the decision was tooo too generous for him.

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