Comments Thread For: Roach: "Pacquiao Wants Mayweather in The Worst Way"

[boxingfan76]

What!!! Did you even read my post or can you even read at all. So now you're claiming that you actually have read the contract, you saw it and you know this for a fact. First of all you moron, i kinda agreed with checkhook that Floyd didn't necessarilly killed the fight, but he did have a part as well as Manny for killing the fight. They're both at fault IMO. But answer my question if you can read it and comprehend it, do you think that the fight between Floyd and Manny would've been signed if it wasn't for the Olympic drug test and if they both stuck with the standard drug test. Be honest, but the answer is yes, the fight would've have been signed.

maybe floyd wouldve gotten a hurt rib at the last minute and backed out< but well never find out cuz manroid killed the fight before we could find out ,now didnt he ****nuts??? your beating a dead horse you sound like and idiot you read like an idiot, your argument would only be used by an idiot.its on manny face it and **** off , just deal with it you lost this time.go jerk off to clottey now.

[rommel357]

margarito beat clottey and cotto, mosley beat margarito.I can play this game all night *******.

Cool, so play along then. Mosley has been defeated 5 times, Cotto has only 1 loss, end of story. Your turn.

[flexxx145]

good post.....I guess Ariza must have come clean to Raoch about his "special blend"

Quote:
Originally Posted by P4P305 View Post
December 11:

Freddie Roach: I have no problem with the testing whatsoever. They can do whatever (Keyword: Whatever) kind of drug testing that they want.

December 14:

Alex Ariza: I am the one in charge, I am the one responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes.


December 22:

Early today Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, was contacted by Top Rank President Todd duBoef, who informed Schaefer that Pacquiao would not agree to have his blood taken within 30-days of the bout based on the fighter’s superstition of testing so close to a fight.

Richard Schaefer: Todd told me that Pacquiao has difficulty with taking blood and doesn’t want to do it so close to the fight. He, Pacquiao, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight.

In that same day,

Freddie Roach: A urine test is just as qualified as a blood test. [Human growth hormone] is not detected by blood or urine.”

How is HGH test done?

More than one blood sample must be taken on different days, due to rapid changing levels of growth hormone. A test measuring IGF-1 levels may be taken in conjunction, as its levels change much slower. Before blood is drawn, the administering health professional should be informed of any disorders or medication being taken which can lead to bleeding at the site of the puncture.



December 23:

Bob Arum: Manny says that taking blood from him really weakens him. And he doesn't want to do it when he's in training, but he'll do it prior to going into training, and after the fight. Every major doctor will tell you that blood testing shows absolutely nothing.

Freddie Roach: For the record, Pacquiao (Remember, he said Pacquiao) is willing to have his blood drawn before he starts training and after the fight to be tested for steroids and performance enhancing drugs. It’s not like Pacquiao is saying no to drugs.


December 24:

Arum: This kid has a phobia for getting his blood drawn.

December 25:

Manny Pacquiao plans to sue Floyd Mayweather, the American's father and Golden Boy Promotions in the next few days following a row over doping procedures, the Filipino world champion said in a statement on Friday.

NYDailyNews. Tim Smith,

This isn't some issue that just came about. It has been a part of the contract negotiations for weeks. According to a source familiar with the talks, Pacquiao's representatives asked what penalties Pacquiao would face if he tested dirty, and also if a dirty test result could be kept secret so that the integrity of the fight wouldn't be ruined in the public eye.


December 26:

Manny Pacquiao: I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the Press Release. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room. I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight.

December 28

Manny Pacquiao: I do not have anything to prove (to them) and hopefully, they would not succeed in destroying my image and the sport of boxing in the way they want it done. They want to dictate and step on the authority of the organizations including the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I am not guilty and I don’t have to prove anything because I have passed all tests in all my previous fights. I will all just see you in court.

December 30:

Alex Ariza: He’s willing to give the blood tests – just not two or three days before, for understable reasons.


David Tyler interviews Freddie Roach.

Freddie Roach: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva, or urine. The doctors I've talked to said that HGH and any growth harmone cannot be detected by any test.

David Tyler: Fred, I have a graduate's degree in Biochemistry and 30 years experience in developing blood chemistry tests.....I'll leave it alone, let's move foward.

Freddie Roach: No wait, you can't tell me that there is a test that can detect HGH or growth harmones.

David Tyler: Fred, I'm not here to make you mad.

Freddie Roach: I'm not mad, I'm telling you that you are wrong if you think there is a test for HGH.

David Tyler: Ok Fred, so you are saying that HGH cannot be detected by a blood test?

Freddie Roach: Absolutely, 100%, NO! Saliva, blood, or urine.






So, I guess this was all Floyd Sr.'s fault right? I think not.

Men Lie, Women Lie, Quotations don't.




Major props to, Dominicano Soy.

[rommel357]

maybe floyd wouldve gotten a hurt rib at the last minute and backed out< but well never find out cuz manroid killed the fight before we could find out ,now didnt he ****nuts??? your beating a dead horse you sound like and idiot you read like an idiot, your argument would only be used by an idiot.its on manny face it and **** off , just deal with it you lost this time.go jerk off to clottey now.

I honestly need a translator for you, please, IN ****ING ENGLISH. Wait, "i lost", are you saying i'm lost, or are you saying that i loss.

[F l i c k e r]

Regarding the topic of this thread. Fuck what Roach has to say. If Pacquiao wanted to fight Mayweather he would have accepted the damn fight. Fuck the talk, and fake ass publicity stunt to make it seem like Pacquiao actually wanted to fight. I'm not fooled, you can fool alot of ******s here but I aint fallin for it. And fuck anyone who 'really' believes that ****. If he wanted to fight he wouldn't have bitched out like he did. "I got nothing to hide but I don't want no blood test." gtfoh. honestly.

totally agree pac and floyd do not measure up to the sugarman as great as they are.hes a fighter from the last era dominating this era that to me is real pnd for pnd.

This I totally agree with. All of the "sugar(s)" were named so for a reason, they all got similar styles, guts, and a ton of heart. SSM is definately a boss.

[solly6]

They asked for it behine closed doors....and Roach publicly cam out and said no problem.....they only released a public statment after they were informed Pac would not accept random blood testing as part of the contract.....

Regardless it would have been good for floyd's image if he had publicly stated that he thought blood tests were important for the sport. Accusing someone first is not the way to negotiate. I have no sympathy for floyd and his camp. They were very amateurish about the way they went about this. Floyd constantly looks like a prick to the public. Pac on the other hand is a very humble gentleman and likable guy.

[boxingfan76]

Cool, so play along then. Mosley has been defeated 5 times, Cotto has only 1 loss, end of story. Your turn.

margarito has 5 losses he destroyed cotto who was undefeated, mosley has 5 losses whom got ducked by manroid with 3 losses , mayweather has no losses yet according to you is afraid of a guy(pac) with 3 losses really 4 2 of them ko losses. margarito with 5 losses beat an undefeated cotto but somehow that makes manroid better for beating the same guy after he suffered 1 ko loss and another sd loss disguised as a win in the clottey fight.mosley with 5 losses destroys marg with 5 losses whom beat clottey, and cotto,automatically making him the man to beat. mosley is unified champ son. your an idiot , cotto was shot b4 pac is shot now and will forever be owned by margarito.

[ivan49]

listen man, you can blood dope everyday up to the fight.
a blood test on the day of the fight wouldnt affect anyone.
they are not taking liters out of your body..
go research blood doping and learn how it works before you comment on peds...mayweather doesnt suspect steroids, but blood doping.

well since you are such an expert in blood doping, then answer the following

1. what is the scientific definition of blood doping?
2. discuss the methods and forms of blood doping and their effects
3. give examples of blood doping and methods of detection
4. please cite your source for saying that such doping is undetectable after 14 days

Also want to know what degree you took up and from what school you graduated from and what profession are you engaged in.

[boxingfan76]

[QUOTE=rommel357;7363536]I honestly need a translator for you, please, IN ****ING ENGLISH. Wait, "i lost", are you saying i'm lost, or are you saying that i loss.[/QUOT hey chicken**** your losing the argument,so now your knocking my writing because you have no substance other than your a fanboy *******. go jerk off to your pac shrine in the corner of moms basement *******.

[Gutz]

margarito has 5 losses he destroyed cotto who was undefeated, mosley has 5 losses whom got ducked by manroid with 3 losses , mayweather has no losses yet according to you is afraid of a guy(pac) with 3 losses really 4 2 of them ko losses. margarito with 5 losses beat an undefeated cotto but somehow that makes manroid better for beating the same guy after he suffered 1 ko loss and another sd loss disguised as a win in the clottey fight.mosley with 5 losses destroys marg with 5 losses whom beat clottey, and cotto,automatically making him the man to beat. mosley is unified champ son. your an idiot , cotto was shot b4 pac is shot now and will forever be owned by margarito.

Margarito cheated vs Cotto... This fight should not even count

Mosley fought a none cheating Margarito and was mentally ***ed cause he knew he got caught cheating. Margocheato was busted and wasnt fighting 100%.. So this fight shouldnt even count..


Only thing we can logically go by is that Cotto beat Mosley..



Cotto > Mosley..