Comments Thread For: Roach: "Pacquiao Wants Mayweather in The Worst Way"

[boxingfan76]

Mosley is a throwback fighter. There isn't a fighter at from 147 to 154 who could KO Mosley. There are fighter who will beat him because of style. For example he should stay away from P. Williams and to a lesser extent Clottey IMO.

A prime Delayoha (a very big and strong welter) could not put him down, Vargas, Winky and Forrest could not put him down at 154, even though they are much bigger than him.

Roach won't put Pac in a ring with Mosley so we will never know. No fighters who are fast, skilled and can throw hard str8 rights for Pac.

totally agree pac and floyd do not measure up to the sugarman as great as they are.hes a fighter from the last era dominating this era that to me is real pnd for pnd.

[swizz]

and *******s-'" we didnt want to take any drug tests therefore the fight collapsed while the ball was in ouR court we had the final say so, but mayweather hes afraid of us" GTFOH WITH THAT ****!

well thats a shame i think more testing is what sports need more of these days, i mean all the cheaters getting caught in all sports....i always though the fans wanted athletes on a level playing field but i guess not!!!!! i would go on to say pac should of done it (take the test), he owes it to boxing, is the moral thing to do as he is one of boxing's biggest star!!!!LEAD BY EXAMPLE

[check hook]

December 11:

Freddie Roach: I have no problem with the testing whatsoever. They can do whatever (Keyword: Whatever) kind of drug testing that they want.

December 14:

Alex Ariza: I am the one in charge, I am the one responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes.


December 22:

Early today Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, was contacted by Top Rank President Todd duBoef, who informed Schaefer that Pacquiao would not agree to have his blood taken within 30-days of the bout based on the fighter’s superstition of testing so close to a fight.

Richard Schaefer: Todd told me that Pacquiao has difficulty with taking blood and doesn’t want to do it so close to the fight. He, Pacquiao, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight.

In that same day,

Freddie Roach: A urine test is just as qualified as a blood test. [Human growth hormone] is not detected by blood or urine.”

How is HGH test done?

More than one blood sample must be taken on different days, due to rapid changing levels of growth hormone. A test measuring IGF-1 levels may be taken in conjunction, as its levels change much slower. Before blood is drawn, the administering health professional should be informed of any disorders or medication being taken which can lead to bleeding at the site of the puncture.



December 23:

Bob Arum: Manny says that taking blood from him really weakens him. And he doesn't want to do it when he's in training, but he'll do it prior to going into training, and after the fight. Every major doctor will tell you that blood testing shows absolutely nothing.

Freddie Roach: For the record, Pacquiao (Remember, he said Pacquiao) is willing to have his blood drawn before he starts training and after the fight to be tested for steroids and performance enhancing drugs. It’s not like Pacquiao is saying no to drugs.


December 24:

Arum: This kid has a phobia for getting his blood drawn.

December 25:

Manny Pacquiao plans to sue Floyd Mayweather, the American's father and Golden Boy Promotions in the next few days following a row over doping procedures, the Filipino world champion said in a statement on Friday.

NYDailyNews. Tim Smith,

This isn't some issue that just came about. It has been a part of the contract negotiations for weeks. According to a source familiar with the talks, Pacquiao's representatives asked what penalties Pacquiao would face if he tested dirty, and also if a dirty test result could be kept secret so that the integrity of the fight wouldn't be ruined in the public eye.


December 26:

Manny Pacquiao: I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the Press Release. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room. I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight.

December 28

Manny Pacquiao: I do not have anything to prove (to them) and hopefully, they would not succeed in destroying my image and the sport of boxing in the way they want it done. They want to dictate and step on the authority of the organizations including the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I am not guilty and I don’t have to prove anything because I have passed all tests in all my previous fights. I will all just see you in court.

December 30:

Alex Ariza: He’s willing to give the blood tests – just not two or three days before, for understable reasons.


David Tyler interviews Freddie Roach.

Freddie Roach: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva, or urine. The doctors I've talked to said that HGH and any growth harmone cannot be detected by any test.

David Tyler: Fred, I have a graduate's degree in Biochemistry and 30 years experience in developing blood chemistry tests.....I'll leave it alone, let's move foward.

Freddie Roach: No wait, you can't tell me that there is a test that can detect HGH or growth harmones.

David Tyler: Fred, I'm not here to make you mad.

Freddie Roach: I'm not mad, I'm telling you that you are wrong if you think there is a test for HGH.

David Tyler: Ok Fred, so you are saying that HGH cannot be detected by a blood test?

Freddie Roach: Absolutely, 100%, NO! Saliva, blood, or urine.






So, I guess this was all Floyd Sr.'s fault right? I think not.

Men Lie, Women Lie, Quotations don't.




Major props to, Dominicano Soy.

good post.....I guess Ariza must have come clean to Raoch about his "special blend"

[boxingfan76]

People can't even read your posts. You really are illiterate. Go take a writing class and then come back and talk.

my writing ,margarito , floyd,molseys roids excuses excuses,ur guy fiten clottey now go jerk off to it.

[boxingfan76]

People can't even read your posts. You really are illiterate. Go take a writing class and then come back and talk.

and go learn the meaning of illiterate, before you go get owned by someone your accusing of being illiterate via boxing forum.

[check hook]

If floyd fights Mosley at 147 with 8oz gloves I will admit that floyd wasn't scared to fight Pac although he still went about his demands in moronic matter. If he wanted blood tests all along he shouldn't have had his drug dealing father accusing Pac of being on steroids. He should have made a public statement addressing the need for blood testing in the sport and his willingness to abide by it for the pac fight. THATS ALL HE HAD TO DO AND THIS WOULD NOT BE A DEBATE. BUT FALSELY ACCUSING A GUY FIRST AND THEN DEMANDING IT IS RIDICULOUS AND I DON'T BLAME THE PAC CAMP FOR TELLING HIM TO ****OFF.

They asked for it behine closed doors....and Roach publicly cam out and said no problem.....they only released a public statment after they were informed Pac would not accept random blood testing as part of the contract.....

[rommel357]

so floyd had a nostradamus vision that told him without a doubt that manny wouldnt agree to random testing so he could get out of the fight is your logic?hey ******ass I got news for you manny did kill this fight its a fact!!!!!it was stipulated in the contract from the begining its not like it just popped up.im not even a floyd fan but the argument idiots like you,roach arum and pac are using is straight up absurd and ****ing childish and ******ed!!! EVERYBODY KNOWS IT WAS PACS ULTIMATE DECISION NOT TO FIGHT NOBODY PUT A GUN TO HIS HEAD AND TOLD HIM TO REFUSE RANDOM TESTING!! only manny did .

What!!! Did you even read my post or can you even read at all. So now you're claiming that you actually have read the contract, you saw it and you know this for a fact. First of all you moron, i kinda agreed with checkhook that Floyd didn't necessarilly killed the fight, but he did have a part as well as Manny for killing the fight. They're both at fault IMO. But answer my question if you can read it and comprehend it, do you think that the fight between Floyd and Manny would've been signed if it wasn't for the Olympic drug test and if they both stuck with the standard drug test. Be honest, but the answer is yes, the fight would've have been signed.

[boxingfan76]

OMG you're a jackass. First of all, WTF is "FITEN", is that like short for fifteen or are you trying to say "fighting". Anyway, you have to be the biggest idiot in here to think that Cotto is a ****ty WW, and even Clottey. Cotto is still one of the top 5 WW's you dumbass.



FYI, Cotto KO'd Judah, beat Mosley, and went toe to toe with Margarito that probably had brass knuckles on. Floyd will never ever step in the ring with Margarito. And Cotto for many people including myself, only has 1 loss in his record. Keep it coming douchebag.

margarito beat clottey and cotto, mosley beat margarito.I can play this game all night *******.

[check hook]

I can agree with this logic, but for Floyd fans to think that Manny killed this fight is even more ludicrous. The fact that Floyd is the one that asked for the Olympic drug test to begin with, and you can't deny that this fight would've been signed if they both stucked with the standard drug test. Do you honestly think that Manny anticipated for Floyd to asked for the Olympic drug test or asked Floyd to demand the Olympic drug test so Manny can kill the fight. Think about it.

they asked in December......Roach publicly said it.....i can repost the link if you need to hear the words come out of his mouth...."that it would be no problem"

So they knew about it very early in the fight negotiations.....it only blew up into an issue when they couldn't wriggle out of the fight with ridiculous demands.....initially = no problem....then suddenly its a deal breaker......

[rommel357]

they asked in December......Roach publicly said it.....i can repost the link if you need to hear the words come out of his mouth...."that it would be no problem"

So they knew about it very early in the fight negotiations.....it only blew up into an issue when they couldn't wriggle out of the fight with ridiculous demands.....initially = no problem....then suddenly its a deal breaker......

Bro, i already have stated that Manny's camp had many contradictions. My only point is that without this Olympic drug test and if they would've agreed to the standard drug test, this fight would be happening in March 13, period, no argument whatsoever.