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  • Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
    this is why i want pac to lose its not because of pac he does his best and helps people and hes a great fighter, but his fans love to revise history, u cant say all his opponents were at their best because they simply werent!! i mean did pac fight hoya in 99??? did he fight morales before barrera? did he fight barerra before morales ? did he fight cotto before margarito??none of those losses for any of those guys werethe types of losses a fighter just shrugs off those all were losses that shorten careers and even lives, they were devastating never to be the same again, so here comes pac and beats them again and he gets credit like if he fought them in their prime days??? dream on aint gonna happen not because of hate because its not true, its just not true.
    Your nitpicking and being over zelous about people's primes. Using your logic Ali should get little to no credit for beating Frazier since he won the first fight and it wasn't until Foreman turned his brains into mashed potatoes that he was able to beat him.

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    • Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
      if mayweather fights mosley that should end any arguments as mosley trumps pacs last 5 fights easily, mosley aint no joke ,dude hits like a truck!!!
      Shane has serious power.If he could straight up ko Margarito,I am sure he would give Manny a coma.That victory is what earns him a spot with Manny or Floyd-the difference is,only one of them will take it...and between the 3, I believe Manny loses to both Shane and Floyd.

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      • Originally posted by Gutz View Post
        Cotto beat Mosley...
        would he beat him after margarito destroyed him??/ and would he beat him now?? exactley thank u.

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        • Originally posted by Gutz View Post
          Cotto beat Mosley...
          And Margarito beat up Cotto...then Shane ko'd Margarito...
          styles make fights.

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          • Originally posted by madsweeney View Post
            Your nitpicking and being over zelous about people's primes. Using your logic Ali should get little to no credit for beating Frazier since he won the first fight and it wasn't until Foreman turned his brains into mashed potatoes that he was able to beat him.
            ahhh but ali faced frazier in his prime, something pac hasnt done, he also faced foreman, norton, spinks and even holmes when they were in theyre prime in fact with ali its the opposite he was past his prime facing guys in their prime, i agree all fighter face faded guys from time to time but pac is getting all this credit for facing faded guys almost exclusivley!! he gets credit like if they were at their best and its just not true its a farce.he is a great fighter but he and mayweather get credit they truly do not deserve.

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            • Originally posted by damned1974 View Post
              Shane has serious power.If he could straight up ko Margarito,I am sure he would give Manny a coma.That victory is what earns him a spot with Manny or Floyd-the difference is,only one of them will take it...and between the 3, I believe Manny loses to both Shane and Floyd.
              i think so to floyd outboxes the **** outta him and mosley out chins and out powers him , pure speculation but to me after watching all these guys for years thats the most likely scenario.this is boxin manny could whupp em both but its not likely at all.

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              • Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
                ahhh but ali faced frazier in his prime, something pac hasnt done, he also faced foreman, norton, spinks and even holmes when they were in theyre prime in fact with ali its the opposite he was past his prime facing guys in their prime, i agree all fighter face faded guys from time to time but pac is getting all this credit for facing faded guys almost exclusivley!! he gets credit like if they were at their best and its just not true its a farce.he is a great fighter but he and mayweather get credit they truly do not deserve.
                I give up, your right. There's no possible way that pac could have beat any of his opponents in their prime right? They couldn't have been in their prime since they lost, so the only logical explanation is they were past it. But Mayweather...he only fights prime fighters like Ghatti and Baldormir and JMM...lets not forget DLH who was a year younger than when Pac fought him or Zab Judah with his incredible win over Baldormir, oh wait, that can't be true because the loser couldn't be in their prime.

                People like you are a ****ing joke, nitpicking your way to find faults in fighters' resume. You forget to mention that going into almost every single one of Pacs matches, he was the significant to severe underdog and people who actually matter in boxing aren't resonating with your claims. Hindsight + microscope + critiques you don't apply to other fighters = your version of 20/20
                Last edited by madsweeney; 01-26-2010, 04:40 PM.

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                • Originally posted by damned1974 View Post
                  And Margarito beat up Cotto...then Shane ko'd Margarito...
                  styles make fights.


                  Mosley fought a non cheating Margarito and was mentally ****ed up.


                  Cotto fought a cheating Margarito ..



                  Cotto beat Mosley..

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                  • How dare Roach talk about bravery? Pacquiao always require his opponents get drained to fight him. He got Oscar and Cotto to fight at 145, and that's not bravery. That's cheating. The only fighter he didn't drain is Marquez who arguably beat him twice. I am not surprised that he prefers to fight a 147 when he fights a bull-like Clottey. I would love to see him fight Mayweather or Mosley, fighters who don't fight like bulls, instead a come-forward bull-like Clottey. Boxing has been reduced to pick and choose opponents and we can never know who is the best because the so-called top fighter never fight each other. Pacquiao would never fight Margarito or Williams either. It takes quality fighters like Mosley to make boxing exciting because they don't mind fighting anyone before them. I wonder why it is taking this long to make the Mosley-Mayweather fight. Is Mayweather having a second thought?
                    Last edited by mdantsane; 01-26-2010, 05:08 PM. Reason: Spelling

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                    • Originally posted by madsweeney View Post
                      I give up, your right. There's no possible way that pac could have beat any of his opponents in their prime right? They couldn't have been in their prime since they lost, so the only logical explanation is they were past it. But Mayweather...he only fights prime fighters like Ghatti and Baldormir and JMM...lets not forget DLH who was a year younger than when Pac fought him or Zab Judah with his incredible win over Baldormir, oh wait, that can't be true because the loser couldn't be in their prime.

                      People like you are a ****ing joke, nitpicking your way to find faults in fighters' resume. You forget to mention that going into almost every single one of Pacs matches, he was the significant to severe underdog and people who actually matter in boxing aren't resonating with your claims. Hindsight + microscope + critiques you don't apply to other fighters = your version of 20/20
                      whatever only beats old shot guys.

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