Comments Thread For: Roach: "Mayweather Has Never Been The Bravest Guy"

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@ Roger Mellie, Sputnik, Chups, Iloveboxing2, PinoyZoi, EMIL2010, and BadBrains.

Just for starters check out this link *******s: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4851874

Manny Pacquiao is not above the law and is worthy of su****ious behavior to say the least. The proof isn't always in the pudding nuthuggers; sometimes you have to think outside the box to catch cheaters and it is so sad that some people will defend an imbecile because you are in love with him (Manny)! Boxing is a serious sport in which lives are taking away from some fighters.
All Floyd was asking for was fair play. What's so bad about that? He was willing to take the same freaking tests!! Manny's head is a clear indication that he may be using something; plus the fact that he is unwilling to take random tests and in fact are willing to take tests that aren't sufficient enough for PEDs to be caught by any commission!!
I would like to see a fight between Floyd and Manny but only if it is fair for both fighters.
As for the above named mentioned haters: why does Roach ask for catchweights? Why wasn't Manny willing to fight Shane even at a drained weight of 140 lbs? Why is Roach with other known cheaters like Margarito, and or Toney? Why was Manny never put in the ring against good to great boxers?
I'll tell you why: Manny is being protected like no other fighter in history; while at the same time he is fighting face-first fighters who are a little heavier than him, but he fight them at catchweights!!! The next Manny victim is Clottey; and he is not a hard puncher. He is slow. He has low endurance in the later rounds. His punch output goes down in the later rounds; and he never fight with a do or die urgency. Trust me on this *******s, Roach knows what he is doing or not doing. He will never feed Manny to someone who could outbox him! Manny's biggest advantage in his fights are his speed against slow methodical face first brawlers=Hatton, Cotto. or past their prime fighters= Barrera, Morales. Or limited opposition= Hatton, Diaz. Better yet a "weight drained and past his prime= Delahoya.
So once again he is fighting a fighter in Clottey with a ton of heart and no fear but he is limited, face-first almost, slow moving target and pretty much limited in his abilities. Just calling it as I see it.

Im asking why cant Floyd done this OLYMPIC STYLE of testing after his comeback with Marquez? Remember Floyd and Pac found clean in the past 5-10 fights by NSAC.

What Floyds worrying right now to MIDGET Pacquiao? on the PEDS? Why? because his father hear the cracking of Hattons jaw? like Sr. stayin away from Hatton after the K.O and blaming Lee Beard, what had Pac did to Cotto in 12rnds?

come on if Floyd is really confident he will fight a midget Pacquiao with NSAC boxing testing period. If he doesn't believe the commission that it will be a chaos and anarchy in the boxing system.

Again in my opinion Pac has far more better opponent than Floyd, coz the last time I know Floyd best were Corales and Catillo 2 was the last and Castillo 1 was a gift thanks to Arum as you said protected.

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True, there is a lot of excess baggage in trying to fight PBF. Not easy. Fighting in the ring with PBF is the easy part almost.

But PBF dont want dangerous WW fights. He fought Zab and PBF just felt lucky he was in one piece after that fight. After fighting Zab, PBF was thinking too himself "And there are guys even more dangerous and hard work than zab, and i dont need it"

Hahahahahahahaha....GTFO off this forum.....most of the hardcore *******s on this forum would not have the temerity to say that ****.......Judah got punished against Mayweather.....Zab won 3rds.......he was on his way to getting KO'd so he low blowed and rabbit punched like the mentally weak fighter he is........

Hugh Grant = another moron who dosen't know **** about boxing........

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I don't know if you're the one telling the truth or Freddie Roach (see video below)

But I rather believe Freddie Roach. And I think you are liar. People who tried to derail truth are LIARS. Nobody will believe you. Keep your lies to yourself.

Go find the vid on youtube.....Roach talks about Margo coming to him practically in tears begging for him to train him and swearing on his life he didn't know his gloves were loaded.......and Roach said he believes him........

I don't lie when it comes to facts.......u won't find anything in that post that did not happen

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@Check Hook - so where's your proof? Just the size of the head? LOL

You nor any of you morons do not have sh@t proof that PAC is on HGH, PED nor steroids. All you have are half truths and whole lies and failure to accept that PACQUIAO is the best fighter right now and not your boy Floyd "Duck" Mayweather Jr.

Most of us won't be surprised if Duck will once again DUCK Mosley LOL[/Q

He has the opportunity to prove him wrong, and in the court of public opinion his refusal to do so leads to more speculation about whether or not he is using PED's than before the actual accusation was being made. I mean Mayweather agreed to everything before that they asked for, a 50-50 split, 10million per pound, ever pound over the weight limit. (Which most people were surprised at that amount, nevertheless the fact that mayweather excepted).

I admire Pacquiao a lot. i think he's #1 pound for pound. Not because i think he's better than mayweather but i feel his body of work over the last 4 years was better than and more impressive than mayweather's, not to mention Pacquiao did it against stronger competition.

The minute that Mayweather's camp said they wanted random blood testing leading up until the fight, pacquiao's camp to this date had/has a million and one excuse's. Remember 1st. they were all for blood testing, but not necessarily the random kind. Then, random blood test were ok, but they wanted to know when the cut-off date to testing was. Then Pacquiao doesn't like needles. Pacquiao doesn't like to have his blood taking leading up until the fight. If your so willing to change your stance on the issue so much then why not agree to the 14 days. According to Pacquaio, in his first fight with Eric Morales he had blood taking the day of the fight and he felt as if that weakened him. So it was understandable why Pacquiao was reluctant to take have blood test taking that close, but 14 days is more than fair.

I believe that this fight will happen in the future though and if this was rd 1 then i have to give this to mayweather. Manny Pacquiao in and outside of the ring is the exact opposite of Floyd Mayweather. Mayweather is so egotistical that he was probably so fed up of all the attention and accolades that manny got when he retired that he probably made up this whole blood testing **** out of spite so the public can look at Manny in a different light. Either that, or he really believes Manny is using performance enhancing drugs.

Personally i dont think manny has used performance enhancing drugs. On the other hand though, i dont trust Alex Ariza neither. Some people are going to say that mayweather never really wanted the fight and this whole blood testing fiasco was his way of looking for a way out of the fight. However its hard to agree to that when mayweather doesnt care when you test him at all, as oppose to pacquiao's camp when you mention random and blood test in the same sentence. It almost unfair in a sense to say that mayweather is "bluffing" and doesnt want to fight without questioning why Pacquiao is leaving all that money on the table and "folding".

Logical thinking is my proof........turned down $50 mil because of a 14 day cut off on randomised testing


All reputable doctors with Re to boxings testing procedures have labelled it a joke......so you can't use Pacs negative tests as proof he is clean either.........

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Logical thinking is my proof........turned down $50 mil because of a 14 day cut off on randomised testing


All reputable doctors with Re to boxings testing procedures have labelled it a joke......so you can't use Pacs negative tests as proof he is clean either.........

true true, why turned down $50 mill but why are you asking that on Pacquiao alone?

you could ask Floyd too why not back down your demands and get the ****ing money on the table?

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Who gives a phuck about what that tweeker Roach thinks. He's got zero credibility! Furthermore it doesn't say much about him when he has to spend an inordinate amount of time tearing down Mayweather. ******** hater!

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true true, why turned down $50 mill but why are you asking that on Pacquiao alone?

you could ask Floyd too why not back down your demands and get the ****ing money on the table?

Well say you think a an opponent is on PED's. So you think to yourself...i'll ask for a better testing regimen so i've got piece of mind. The other guy outright opposes it!! Put yourself in team Mayweathers shoes.....they thought he was on something before....Pacs actions in refusing to test outright without a 30 day cut-off would reinforce their su****ions.......who in that position would then back down???.......And at the end of the day the 14 days was offered and Arum lied about it ever being on the table.....

C'mon......think about it....first Roach said no problem...then it effects Manny for 3 or 4 days....then Mannys comments on ESPN with Brian Kenny........so given all that why do they need 30 days? Then why 24? And finally why won't they accept the a compromise in 14 days???

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true true, why turned down $50 mill but why are you asking that on Pacquiao alone?

you could ask Floyd too why not back down your demands and get the ****ing money on the table?

Both of them turned down $50M because of their egos

Not only Pac

Mayweather jr also, all he has to do is sign the contract and they can fight.

Why ask for so many things? why is he so afraid of PAC.

He said Pac only need to do is step up to the plate!!! And what happened after that. Oh you need to do this... and that.... blah blah blah WTF!!!!

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[QUOTE=l3xxer;7351653]

true true, why turned down $50 mill but why are you asking that on Pacquiao alone?

you could ask Floyd too why not back down your demands and get the ****ing money on the table?

Can't ask Floyd as of now because he is nowhere to find. No news at all since Friday.. Just wonder where is Floyd right now. I miss him so much already...

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Well say you think a an opponent is on PED's. So you think to yourself...i'll ask for a better testing regimen so i've got piece of mind. The other guy outright opposes it!! Put yourself in team Mayweathers shoes.....they thought he was on something before....Pacs actions in refusing to test outright without a 30 day cut-off would reinforce their su****ions.......who in that position would then back down???.......And at the end of the day the 14 days was offered and Arum lied about it ever being on the table.....

No one knows what happend on the mediation process except the people inside.. you don't know whos lying and who's not.. Arum Immediately told the media the results of the mediation while the Mayweathers took a day before responding to Arum's statements, SAVE FACE??...

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Why ask for so many things? why is he so afraid of PAC.

He said Pac only need to do is step up to the plate!!! And what happened after that. Oh you need to do this... and that.... blah blah blah WTF!!!!

He said Pac was an easy opponent?

Floyd: I want Random drug test!

Arum: no way! you don't control us! no way no way no way!

Floyd: O.K fine! Im going to beat him anyway so whats the big deal, no drug test! << this should be his response but he insisted on the random blood test.