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  • #51
    Originally posted by Roger Mellie View Post
    If floyd ducks Mosley after making the pac fight fall apart with his ****** demands,then any ***** attempting to defend that position will be parting in some serious self ownage.
    why are you looking at other men on the beach? well thats just wrong

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    • #52
      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
      Manny Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach doesn't think much about Floyd Mayweather Jr's selection of welterweight opponents over the last few years. Speaking with Gareth Davies of The Telegraph Sport, Roach said Mayweather lacks the courage to fight the toughest guys in his division and money is not enough to motivate him. [Click Here To Read More]
      True, there is a lot of excess baggage in trying to fight PBF. Not easy. Fighting in the ring with PBF is the easy part almost.

      But PBF dont want dangerous WW fights. He fought Zab and PBF just felt lucky he was in one piece after that fight. After fighting Zab, PBF was thinking too himself "And there are guys even more dangerous and hard work than zab, and i dont need it"

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      • #53
        Originally posted by tanibanana View Post
        most likely you are right...
        most likley you are a manny fan

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        • #54
          Roach is right....Floyd has NEVER been the bravest, those guys usually get the blood knocked from their face every now and then, like Cotto!!.....but everybody loves a winner, ask Floyd's fanbase!!.....the first thing they'll say is the he's undefeated......I guess thats what makes him so cool to them ......no balls, no heart and no losses .....thats ya boy Floyd!!

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          • #55
            To some known *******s in the house!!

            Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
            Manny Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach doesn't think much about Floyd Mayweather Jr's selection of welterweight opponents over the last few years. Speaking with Gareth Davies of The Telegraph Sport, Roach said Mayweather lacks the courage to fight the toughest guys in his division and money is not enough to motivate him. [Click Here To Read More]
            @ Roger Mellie, Sputnik, Chups, Iloveboxing2, PinoyZoi, EMIL2010, and BadBrains.

            Just for starters check out this link *******s: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4851874

            Manny Pacquiao is not above the law and is worthy of su****ious behavior to say the least. The proof isn't always in the pudding nuthuggers; sometimes you have to think outside the box to catch cheaters and it is so sad that some people will defend an imbecile because you are in love with him (Manny)! Boxing is a serious sport in which lives are taking away from some fighters.
            All Floyd was asking for was fair play. What's so bad about that? He was willing to take the same freaking tests!! Manny's head is a clear indication that he may be using something; plus the fact that he is unwilling to take random tests and in fact are willing to take tests that aren't sufficient enough for PEDs to be caught by any commission!!
            I would like to see a fight between Floyd and Manny but only if it is fair for both fighters.
            As for the above named mentioned haters: why does Roach ask for catchweights? Why wasn't Manny willing to fight Shane even at a drained weight of 140 lbs? Why is Roach with other known cheaters like Margarito, and or Toney? Why was Manny never put in the ring against good to great boxers?
            I'll tell you why: Manny is being protected like no other fighter in history; while at the same time he is fighting face-first fighters who are a little heavier than him, but he fight them at catchweights!!! The next Manny victim is Clottey; and he is not a hard puncher. He is slow. He has low endurance in the later rounds. His punch output goes down in the later rounds; and he never fight with a do or die urgency. Trust me on this *******s, Roach knows what he is doing or not doing. He will never feed Manny to someone who could outbox him! Manny's biggest advantage in his fights are his speed against slow methodical face first brawlers=Hatton, Cotto. or past their prime fighters= Barrera, Morales. Or limited opposition= Hatton, Diaz. Better yet a "weight drained and past his prime= Delahoya.
            So once again he is fighting a fighter in Clottey with a ton of heart and no fear but he is limited, face-first almost, slow moving target and pretty much limited in his abilities. Just calling it as I see it.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by check hook View Post
              Maybe...who knows......but we will see what happens with that, now and in the future.....

              All i'm saying is a guy turned down $50 mil due to randomised testing with a 14 day-cut off without any reason that is acceptable or makes any sense if he is a clean athlete....
              Then, we are down to "makes sense". Great because right now it makes sense that Floyd-Mosley get it on. But the point is "it makes sense" or intuition are all biased on our own personal preferences. My two cents.

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              • #57
                Some Floyds fans here a couple of weeks ago, they are really sure that Floyd will fight Mosley.better than Pac-Clottey, Of course much better with Pac-Clottey, but where is Floyd now anyway?

                People knows that Mosley-Berto are off already. GBP told the press FLoyd-Mosley fight will be done within a day or two, and Mosley is willing to do a Olympic style testing, until now we heard nothing from them specially with Floyd and his team all speculations no signed or sealed the deal.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
                  tell pac to fight with out catch wts. floyd has never asked for catch wts. thats all pac wants. pbf vs dlh@154. pac vs dlh@144 how great is he if he always has to dehydrate the other guy? also pac and arum were negotiating with clotty while pretending to want the pbf fight.
                  Are you following boxing? isn't Pac-Clottey no-catchweight? DLH-PAC @ 144 lbs? what the **** are you talking about? they fought at 147 lbs(welterweight).. Floyd don't do catchweight? wasn't his fight with Marquez catchweight @ 144 lbs then his cheat ass came in 146 lbs over the limit weight?.. go look the **** up first!

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by check hook View Post
                    If i recall Mayweather wanted a 12-15 million guarantee to fight Margarito and a $10m guarantee to fight Cotto and/or Hatton. This is straight from Arums mouth because he was still with Top Rank. Arum told him that was not going to happen.....ie he would not get that type of guarantee....so Mayweather bought his contract out for 750K....a clause that could be enacted in the final years of his contract.

                    Mayweather also wanted a fight with ODLH...something Arum would not entertain. So Mayweather pursued and got the ODLH fight after he became a free agent.

                    Roach is so full of ****. Here he is saying he wants to whoop Mayweathwer and Mayweather is ducking this guy and that guy.......but the fight with Pac will not happen as long as they want random blood testing....what a load of ****. When Toney was caught using Stanazolol Roach knew he was taking it. He came out and said he took it to get over an injury. Freddie Roach does not believe PED use is cheating...that tells me it is rife in boxing. I mean this is a trainer who was going to train Margarito after he asked because he said he did not believe Margarito knew his wraps were loaded......pffft!!!.....How does a fighter not notice his hand wraps turn to plaster??

                    I don't know if you're the one telling the truth or Freddie Roach (see video below)

                    But I rather believe Freddie Roach. And I think you are liar. People who tried to derail truth are LIARS. Nobody will believe you. Keep your lies to yourself.

                    Last edited by Toxic; 01-26-2010, 06:25 AM.

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                    • #60
                      [QUOTE=sputnik;7351221]@Check Hook - so where's your proof? Just the size of the head? LOL

                      You nor any of you morons do not have sh@t proof that PAC is on HGH, PED nor steroids. All you have are half truths and whole lies and failure to accept that PACQUIAO is the best fighter right now and not your boy Floyd "Duck" Mayweather Jr.

                      Most of us won't be surprised if Duck will once again DUCK Mosley LOL[/Q

                      He has the opportunity to prove him wrong, and in the court of public opinion his refusal to do so leads to more speculation about whether or not he is using PED's than before the actual accusation was being made. I mean Mayweather agreed to everything before that they asked for, a 50-50 split, 10million per pound, ever pound over the weight limit. (Which most people were surprised at that amount, nevertheless the fact that mayweather excepted).

                      I admire Pacquiao a lot. i think he's #1 pound for pound. Not because i think he's better than mayweather but i feel his body of work over the last 4 years was better than and more impressive than mayweather's, not to mention Pacquiao did it against stronger competition.

                      The minute that Mayweather's camp said they wanted random blood testing leading up until the fight, pacquiao's camp to this date had/has a million and one excuse's. Remember 1st. they were all for blood testing, but not necessarily the random kind. Then, random blood test were ok, but they wanted to know when the cut-off date to testing was. Then Pacquiao doesn't like needles. Pacquiao doesn't like to have his blood taking leading up until the fight. If your so willing to change your stance on the issue so much then why not agree to the 14 days. According to Pacquaio, in his first fight with Eric Morales he had blood taking the day of the fight and he felt as if that weakened him. So it was understandable why Pacquiao was reluctant to take have blood test taking that close, but 14 days is more than fair.

                      I believe that this fight will happen in the future though and if this was rd 1 then i have to give this to mayweather. Manny Pacquiao in and outside of the ring is the exact opposite of Floyd Mayweather. Mayweather is so egotistical that he was probably so fed up of all the attention and accolades that manny got when he retired that he probably made up this whole blood testing **** out of spite so the public can look at Manny in a different light. Either that, or he really believes Manny is using performance enhancing drugs.

                      Personally i dont think manny has used performance enhancing drugs. On the other hand though, i dont trust Alex Ariza neither. Some people are going to say that mayweather never really wanted the fight and this whole blood testing fiasco was his way of looking for a way out of the fight. However its hard to agree to that when mayweather doesnt care when you test him at all, as oppose to pacquiao's camp when you mention random and blood test in the same sentence. It almost unfair in a sense to say that mayweather is "bluffing" and doesnt want to fight without questioning why Pacquiao is leaving all that money on the table and "folding".

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