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  • Xecutioner
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    #41
    Originally posted by NiGe2011
    and people are sleeping on his chin
    how can you sleep on the chin of a guy whos been dropped what, 8x in his career?

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    • jpboxer3
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      #42
      Originally posted by NiGe2011
      This is true about Diego and Mayweather-- but it was not the best Chico that fought him. And in my opinion Corrales looked better against Casamayor then Castillo did. I mean, even in the first fight Corrales floored him, which Castillo and Freitas were unable to do. People who think Castillo is going to win always talk about Chico's chin, but they fail to mention his speed, power, and size. I think all three of those will make as big a difference in this fight as his chin will. Also, (while on the subject of that chin) people talk about Casamayor flooring him despite Joel's apparent lack of power- but Freitas is a much harder hitter then Casamayor is and he did not even come close to dropping Chico, so who knows on that one. Finally, people are talking about Castillo constantly coming forward like it is a good thing, but Diego demolishes guys like that, the only time that he struggles at all is when guys are backing up and moving side to side. What people seem to see as Castillo's strength I see as Jose being one dimensional. I mean, the very same quality is often critisized in Pacquiao. I think that this coming forward style will be Castillo's downfall. Corrales is just has so much raw talent, it will be tough for the older Castillo to deal with. (when I call him old I mean in boxing years more then actual age)

      Corrales's emotions will be his downfall.How many times has Chico gotten emotional whether its a win or a loss?This reminds me of the most recent Welterweight flop Kermitt Cintron.These emotions that Corrales has,shows that he can indeed be mentally broken down,and Castillo is known to systematically breakdown his opponent both mentally and physically.Castillo's constant attacks and pressure will break Corrales spirit.
      Last edited by jpboxer3; 05-07-2005, 01:22 AM.

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      • NiGe2011
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        #43
        He has only been dropped by two guys and it is not all that rare that people talk about guys having a better chin as they move up in weight class (as a matter of fact I read an article where the writer was praising Jose Luis Castillo and Manny Pacquiao on just this- maybe on ESPN). People talk about Diego like if you breath on him he is gonna hit the deck, but this is not the case. Against Freitas who is a power puncher he did not go down. Against Roberto Garcia who is a power puncher he did not go down. His knockdowns have been more like flash knockdowns in the sense that they are a result of being off balance more then the sheer power of the shot, and that is something that can be improved on. That is basically what I was hinting at I guess.

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        • NiGe2011
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          #44
          Originally posted by jpboxer3
          Corrales's emotions will be his downfall.How many times has Chico gotten emotional whether its a win or a loss?This reminds me of the most recent Welterweight flop Kermitt Cintron.These emotions that Corrales shows that he can indeed be mentally broken down,and Castillo is known to systematically breakdown his opponent both mentally and physically.Castillo's constant attacks and pressure will break Corrales spirit.
          He is definitally emotional, no doubt about that, but I am not so sure that it is in the detrimental sense as was the case with Cintron. Diego was behind early against Freitas but he did not get frustrated, he stayed relaxed and did what he had to in order to win the fight. I think he is more passionate whereas guys like Cintron are just scared and overwhelmed. I don't think the emotion will be a problem for Chico.

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            #45
            the way frietas fought like a scared rabbit i dont know if he could knock anyone down. he was punching on the move the whole time and never had the balls to try to sit down a deliver solid shots on corrales he was too much in fear for his life. i seriously doubt castillo will fight anything like that, hes going to sit down and deliver solid shots on that questionable chin

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              #46
              Originally posted by NiGe2011
              This is true about Diego and Mayweather-- but it was not the best Chico that fought him. And in my opinion Corrales looked better against Casamayor then Castillo did. I mean, even in the first fight Corrales floored him, which Castillo and Freitas were unable to do. People who think Castillo is going to win always talk about Chico's chin, but they fail to mention his speed, power, and size. I think all three of those will make as big a difference in this fight as his chin will. Also, (while on the subject of that chin) people talk about Casamayor flooring him despite Joel's apparent lack of power- but Freitas is a much harder hitter then Casamayor is and he did not even come close to dropping Chico, so who knows on that one. Finally, people are talking about Castillo constantly coming forward like it is a good thing, but Diego demolishes guys like that, the only time that he struggles at all is when guys are backing up and moving side to side. What people seem to see as Castillo's strength I see as Jose being one dimensional. I mean, the very same quality is often critisized in Pacquiao. I think that this coming forward style will be Castillo's downfall. Corrales is just has so much raw talent, it will be tough for the older Castillo to deal with. (when I call him old I mean in boxing years more then actual age)
              Castillo is naturally talented himself. He is seasoned, much more experienced, physically stronger and more imposing and will bring Corrales aspects from which he has never dealt with before. You said you think Corrales looked better against Casamayor and that also attributes to Corrales having the edge. If that is the case Castillo looked better against Mayweather twice than Corrales did. He also has never touched the canvas wasnt even close actually against both fighters Diego went down for.

              Corrales is getting stopped once again. But would you like to make a friendly wager? Say 20 Million?

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                #47
                Originally posted by NiGe2011
                He has only been dropped by two guys and it is not all that rare that people talk about guys having a better chin as they move up in weight class (as a matter of fact I read an article where the writer was praising Jose Luis Castillo and Manny Pacquiao on just this- maybe on ESPN). People talk about Diego like if you breath on him he is gonna hit the deck, but this is not the case. Against Freitas who is a power puncher he did not go down. Against Roberto Garcia who is a power puncher he did not go down. His knockdowns have been more like flash knockdowns in the sense that they are a result of being off balance more then the sheer power of the shot, and that is something that can be improved on. That is basically what I was hinting at I guess.
                I agree. Chico's chin is not near as bad as people are making it out to be. Once Castillo keeps pressuring him and connecting with little effect, he won't know what the hell to do. Corrales has seemed much more improved lately in comparison to the days when he lost to Casamayor and Mayweather.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
                  Castillo is naturally talented himself. He is seasoned, much more experienced, physically stronger and more imposing and will bring Corrales aspects from which he has never dealt with before. You said you think Corrales looked better against Casamayor and that also attributes to Corrales having the edge. If that is the case Castillo looked better against Mayweather twice than Corrales did. He also has never touched the canvas wasnt even close actually against both fighters Diego went down for.

                  Corrales is getting stopped once again. But would you like to make a friendly wager? Say 20 Million?
                  I am not so much saying that Corrales looking good against Casamayor means that he is going to win, more just saying that it is tough to judge how a fight is going to play out based on previous common opponents (as people have often been doing using Mayweather). As for the wager, I give your boy enough respect that I am going to be crapping my pants as it is-- I don't know if I can handle a bet on top of that, haha.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by legend
                    I agree. Chico's chin is not near as bad as people are making it out to be. Once Castillo keeps pressuring him and connecting with little effect, he won't know what the hell to do. Corrales has seemed much more improved lately in comparison to the days when he lost to Casamayor and Mayweather.
                    Have you ever seen Castillo fight? He is not that type of fighter you are describing. He is the kind who starts working to drown you in the later rounds as soon as the bell rings. He doesnt expect one punch knock outs. When they come is because he wore down his opponent.

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                    • jpboxer3
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by NiGe2011
                      He is definitally emotional, no doubt about that, but I am not so sure that it is in the detrimental sense as was the case with Cintron. Diego was behind early against Freitas but he did not get frustrated, he stayed relaxed and did what he had to in order to win the fight. I think he is more passionate whereas guys like Cintron are just scared and overwhelmed. I don't think the emotion will be a problem for Chico.

                      Corrales's experience against Mayweather probably helped him keep his composure against Freitas.Of course he's gonna stay relax when a fighter runs most of the rounds and is only willing to engage a few times per round.Freitas wasn't known to have the best of chins going into the fight,so Corrales did the smart thing and waited for Freitas to tire out later in the fight,before going for the kill.


                      NOTE:Unlike Freitas leading up to his fight against Corrales,Castillo has never been knocked down in all of his 59fights.

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