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  • 407BoriKua
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    #51
    Originally posted by south318
    chris john would outbox both of them if he doesn't get tired. And that's a big if. I think gamboa is yet to be tested.
    exactly these clowns like street ***** acts like if gamboas the greatest gamboa hasnt fought no one n they base it of a triangle theory. Juanma waas whoopin mtagwas ass until he decided to trade with him hes more a boxer puncher. So he gets hurt and almost goes down in 12th but doesnt. Now gamboa has advantage of watching that fight plus hes faster hes not a boxer puncher like juanma lately hes been trying to be more careful but he started early and got the ko but he still hasnt fought no one most his fights are against bums and he beat this guy earlier and now hes the greatest. Hagler struggled with duran duran got kod in 2 rounds by hearns and what happened hagler kod hearns in 3 so it dont work

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    • rod_serrs
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      #52
      Originally posted by Don Johnson
      John schools them both, they're too green for him at this point. Rocky had him hurt but, Rocky can really crack. He's not a 1 punch guy but he has enough power to really put a hurtin on somebody and Rocky has been in with the best and made it interesting. Gamboa and Lopez have not, John by a wide UD.
      The number of professional fights decide if your green? Gamboa's amateur pedigree and boxing skills are second to none. Many of you guys are kidding yourself. Chris John has faced too many 'green' fighters in his career. Look at his record and you'll see that many of the defenses that he's had have been against lower competition than Juarez. When he stepped up to face Juarez he struggled. I would rank both Gamboa and Juanma above Juarez, and there is no reason to believe that he would easily handle either one of these men.

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      • Spray_resistant
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        #53
        Originally posted by rod_serrs
        The number of professional fights decide if your green? Gamboa's amateur pedigree and boxing skills are second to none. Many of you guys are kidding yourself. Chris John has faced too many 'green' fighters in his career. Look at his record and you'll see that many of the defenses that he's had have been against lower competition than Juarez. When he stepped up to face Juarez he struggled. I would rank both Gamboa and Juanma above Juarez, and there is no reason to believe that he would easily handle either one of these men.
        He did not struggle he beat him decisively twice and got a BS hometown draw in one of those fights.

        In the 2nd fight he won 11 of 12 rounds the way I saw it.

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        • rod_serrs
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          #54
          Originally posted by 407BoriKua
          exactly these clowns like street ***** acts like if gamboas the greatest gamboa hasnt fought no one n they base it of a triangle theory. Juanma waas whoopin mtagwas ass until he decided to trade with him hes more a boxer puncher. So he gets hurt and almost goes down in 12th but doesnt. Now gamboa has advantage of watching that fight plus hes faster hes not a boxer puncher like juanma lately hes been trying to be more careful but he started early and got the ko but he still hasnt fought no one most his fights are against bums and he beat this guy earlier and now hes the greatest. Hagler struggled with duran duran got kod in 2 rounds by hearns and what happened hagler kod hearns in 3 so it dont work
          Had Gamboa fought Mtagwa prior it would have been the same. The power, speed, and talent gap was way too obvious. However, to get to your point Juanma and Gamboa are two different fighters. Looking like Juanma is turning into a pressure break down fighter, where Gamboa is looking to shine on highlight reel type stuff utilizing his speed and power. Mtagwa was better suited to compete against Juanma is all.

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          • jowee
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            #55
            i saw signs of slowing down in chris john in his last 2 fights. even rocky juarez gave him some problems. i think he has a slim chance against the 2.

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            • rod_serrs
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              #56
              Originally posted by Spray_resistant
              He did not struggle he beat him decisively twice and got a BS hometown draw in one of those fights.

              In the 2nd fight he won 11 of 12 rounds the way I saw it.
              Go back and look at what was left of John in the 12th round of both fights. If that doesn't look like a man struggling to make it through I don't know what does. That BTW came against a man throwing far fewer punches and providing less pressure than what Gamboa and Juanma both typically bring.

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              • vercingetorix3
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                #57
                Wouldn't mind seeing either, although I personally think Chris John outboxes them both.

                Of the two, I think Gamboa has the better handspeed and better shot to beat The Dragon though.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by rod_serrs
                  Go back and look at what was left of John in the 12th round of both fights. If that doesn't look like a man struggling to make it through I don't know what does. That BTW came against a man throwing far fewer punches and providing less pressure than what Gamboa and Juanma both typically bring.
                  He got caught in the end but almost doesn't cut in boxing, story of Juarez's career. John handled Juarez a very good fighter extremely well in both fights over all.

                  I am not even entirely convinced that Gamboa or JuanMa would beat Juarez, a guy though he is limited can crack and has a good chin against a fighter with no defense and one who may not have the best chin.......wouldn't surprise me if Bob steered both fighters clear of Juarez.

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                  • rod_serrs
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                    He got caught in the end but almost doesn't cut in boxing, story of Juarez's career. John handled Juarez a very good fighter extremely well in both fights over all.

                    I am not even entirely convinced that Gamboa or JuanMa would beat Juarez, a guy though he is limited can crack and has a good chin against a fighter with no defense and one who may not have the best chin.......wouldn't surprise me if Bob steered both fighters clear of Juarez.
                    If ever there was a boxer who can find a way lose a fight it would be Juarez. This is a guy who would be on a 4 fight losing streak were it not for shady scoring and a punch that landed on the right place at the right time against Barrios. Juarez defeats himself with lack of activity. It would be the same against Gamboa and Juanma. BTW getting 'caught' both times in the 12th? He burned out and had been getting hit with big shots throughout the fights. They were few, but were getting there. Gamboa and Juanma will present more than a few shots and I don't believe that John will have the convenience of being 'caught' just the 12th. He'll feel consequences of the Gamboa's and Juanma's power and pressure much sooner. Either he'll burn out quicker or just get caught sooner.

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                      #60
                      this is an interesting fight as long as its not held in indonesia to avoid controversy

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