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  • Bozo_no no
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    #21
    Toney is without a doubt a smarter fighter than Klitschko. You should slap your 16 year old self right in the face for saying otherwise.

    Toney, in terms of ring smarts and savvy, is one of the respected fighters in the sport for his old school mentality and ability to focus effortlessly in the ring.

    The problem in this fight for Toney is the sheer size difference. Vitali is a foot taller, and at 36 and how injury prone and out of shape Toney has been, this is literally a very tall order for him.

    He'll be a deserving underdog, and his chances are slim, but I wouldn't write him off.

    Vitali Klitschko is still a relativly unproven heavyweight, and sheer size isn't always enough.

    Toney will be at a huge disadvantage, but I don't think he can be written off.

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    • Tha Greatest
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      #22
      Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
      Toney is without a doubt a smarter fighter than Klitschko. You should slap your 16 year old self right in the face for saying otherwise.

      Toney, in terms of ring smarts and savvy, is one of the respected fighters in the sport for his old school mentality and ability to focus effortlessly in the ring.

      The problem in this fight for Toney is the sheer size difference. Vitali is a foot taller, and at 36 and how injury prone and out of shape Toney has been, this is literally a very tall order for him.

      He'll be a deserving underdog, and his chances are slim, but I wouldn't write him off.

      Vitali Klitschko is still a relativly unproven heavyweight, and sheer size isn't always enough.

      Toney will be at a huge disadvantage, but I don't think he can be written off.

      You tellin me I should smack myself in the face for saying otherweise?

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      • Bozo_no no
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        #23
        Originally posted by ThaGreatest
        You tellin me I should smack myself in the face for saying otherweise?
        Was talking to Sturmrules

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          #24
          Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
          Was talking to Sturmrules
          oo ok I was like WTF

          I think Toney is really smart in the ring, but he needs to get more disciplined outside the ring..

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          • Bozo_no no
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            #25
            Originally posted by ThaGreatest
            oo ok I was like WTF

            I think Toney is really smart in the ring, but he needs to get more disciplined outside the ring..

            I agree.

            Being 36 and injury prone isn't going to help him when he's putting on that much weight in between fights.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
              Toney is without a doubt a smarter fighter than Klitschko. You should slap your 16 year old self right in the face for saying otherwise.

              Toney, in terms of ring smarts and savvy, is one of the respected fighters in the sport for his old school mentality and ability to focus effortlessly in the ring.

              The problem in this fight for Toney is the sheer size difference. Vitali is a foot taller, and at 36 and how injury prone and out of shape Toney has been, this is literally a very tall order for him.

              He'll be a deserving underdog, and his chances are slim, but I wouldn't write him off.

              Vitali Klitschko is still a relativly unproven heavyweight, and sheer size isn't always enough.

              Toney will be at a huge disadvantage, but I don't think he can be written off.

              i think toney is a better fighter(skills wise), but i dont know about smarter... i do think toney is smart, but i dont see any evidence that VK is not as smart...

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                #27
                Originally posted by SturmRules
                1. Vitali's jab will keep toney away from him while vitali uses long rang punches to pot shot toney.


                2. toney doesnt dodge every punch he will get hit and vitali probally hits 5-10 times ahrder then anyone he ahs ever faced.


                3. when toney gets hit even if it isnt clean, it will wear him down liek in the jirov fight vitlai will beat on him. his arms or whever the punches land will hurt toney later on.


                4. i dotn see hwo toney is gonan egt inside to go to the body he'd have to open up to attack and we akk saw what happen to danny williams.

                5. even if toney does get inside his power wont have that much effect at all. and even if he does place body shots as the case in the danny fight he is gonna have to pressure and atatck vitali, that is not toneys style, his body shots wont do anythign cause vitali will just sit at logn rang pop that jab, gather and bomb him. vitali throws 70-90 punches.

                6. thought i should add this in aslo, vitali isnt as slow as peopel claim he is, if u notice he leans backwards and also jumps backwards kind of liek a little hop, agasint shorter fighters he really uses this to hsi advantage, he hops back to avoid haymakers and body shots and leans back to take the steam off of stright punches, vitali can use this move effectivly agaisnt toney. danny williams is 6'1 with a 79" reach. toney is 5 9"- 5'11"?? with a 76 reach. he is gonan have a horrible time hitting vitali.

                this is pretty much a case where size and syle outweigh skill.
                Vitali would win because he is a better FIGHTER period.

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                • Bozo_no no
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by guru
                  i think toney is a better fighter(skills wise), but i dont know about smarter... i do think toney is smart, but i dont see any evidence that VK is not as smart...
                  This is because you're a big Vitali fan, and that's fine.

                  Toney is widely regarded as one of the smartest and savvy fighters in the ring today. (not so much outside of it)

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                  • MrCoop
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by RastaSmoker
                    Vitali would win because he is a better FIGHTER period.
                    WRONG not a better fighter, Maybe a better heavyweight, but Toney has already did more in this sport than Vitali EVER WILL.

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                    • Zab Super Judah
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                      #30
                      if toney can find a way to stay inside he could win..but its a very difficult task..but i think he can jus stay chest to chest with vitali..vitali needs space to punch and taking it away would give toney a shot

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