Why Vitali will beat toney

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  • AintGottaClue
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    #1

    Why Vitali will beat toney

    1. Vitali's jab will keep toney away from him while vitali uses long rang punches to pot shot toney.


    2. toney doesnt dodge every punch he will get hit and vitali probally hits 5-10 times ahrder then anyone he ahs ever faced.


    3. when toney gets hit even if it isnt clean, it will wear him down liek in the jirov fight vitlai will beat on him. his arms or whever the punches land will hurt toney later on.


    4. i dotn see hwo toney is gonan egt inside to go to the body he'd have to open up to attack and we akk saw what happen to danny williams.

    5. even if toney does get inside his power wont have that much effect at all. and even if he does place body shots as the case in the danny fight he is gonna have to pressure and atatck vitali, that is not toneys style, his body shots wont do anythign cause vitali will just sit at logn rang pop that jab, gather and bomb him. vitali throws 70-90 punches.

    6. thought i should add this in aslo, vitali isnt as slow as peopel claim he is, if u notice he leans backwards and also jumps backwards kind of liek a little hop, agasint shorter fighters he really uses this to hsi advantage, he hops back to avoid haymakers and body shots and leans back to take the steam off of stright punches, vitali can use this move effectivly agaisnt toney. danny williams is 6'1 with a 79" reach. toney is 5 9"- 5'11"?? with a 76 reach. he is gonan have a horrible time hitting vitali.

    this is pretty much a case where size and syle outweigh skill.
    Last edited by AintGottaClue; 05-06-2005, 07:23 PM.
  • Floydmayweather
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    #2
    I agree with some of the things you say but Toney will give Vitali trouble even though he is a clear favorite. Toney is not big but he is a far better defensive fighter than anyone Vitali has ever faced. He also would lay back on the ropes and make Vitali come to him and than fight inside. Toney also gets stronger as a fight goes on while Vitali has well known stamina problems. Lastly, Toney has underated power and great countering ability against someone who is realitivly slow that it will be easy to couter and land big shots if he is able to get inside. I see this fight going on of two ways either Vitali takes Toney out inside 5 or he uses himself up only to have Toney come on strong a win a close descion in 12.

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    • tonytucker
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      #3
      I think Vitaly is miles to tall for Toney. Even if James got lucky with a huge haymaker I don't think it would have much effect at all on Klitzco. Later brother brologs.

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      • AintGottaClue
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        #4
        Originally posted by Floydmayweather
        I agree with some of the things you say but Toney will give Vitali trouble even though he is a clear favorite. Toney is not big but he is a far better defensive fighter than anyone Vitali has ever faced. He also would lay back on the ropes and make Vitali come to him and than fight inside. Toney also gets stronger as a fight goes on while Vitali has well known stamina problems. Lastly, Toney has underated power and great countering ability against someone who is realitivly slow that it will be easy to couter and land big shots if he is able to get inside. I see this fight going on of two ways either Vitali takes Toney out inside 5 or he uses himself up only to have Toney come on strong a win a close descion in 12.

        vitali will not go to toney, dont know why u would think that, vitlai is waaay to smart from that dont under estimate his ring smarts, toney does not want to be on the rops at all, klitschko would pick him apart from a distance

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        • NAB
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          #5
          Toney is the smarter fighter, and way more talented. But Vitali is a foot taller than him. If he is smart, Toney wouldn't get near him.

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          • AintGottaClue
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            #6
            Originally posted by NAB
            Toney is the smarter fighter, and way more talented. But Vitali is a foot taller than him. If he is smart, Toney wouldn't get near him.

            i strongly disagree that toney is smarter then vitali. toney got knocked down because he was being dumb agasint roy. he has been lazy soemtimes and toney doesnt come into every fight in fighting form liek vitali who is always ready and in shape
            Last edited by AintGottaClue; 05-06-2005, 08:41 PM.

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            • Floydmayweather
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              #7
              Toney is always ready for fights now, the Toney of old is gone. And Vitali is not a smarter fighter than Toney stop dreaming.

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              • adeelr
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                #8
                james toney is going to need a ladder to get to vitali...i took this line from rocky 4..anyways yeaa Toney cant fight Vitali, he might be a better fighter than Vitali but Vitali is just too big for him, Toney needs to be at light heavy, and beat glencoff johnson and antonio tarver.

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                • AintGottaClue
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Floydmayweather
                  Toney is always ready for fights now, the Toney of old is gone. And Vitali is not a smarter fighter than Toney stop dreaming.

                  no u r wrong toney just came in out of shape agasint ruiz, he is not smarter then vitali

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                  • phallus
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SturmRules
                    i strongly disagree that toney is smarter then vitali. toney got knocked down because he was being dumb agasint roy.
                    not dumb, that was pride, roy was showing off, and james was playin the anything u can do i can do game, and he lost

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