If Manny was juicing

[rao007]

Ok so your point is?
126/145... Pac has been getting rocked in all his fights, but he gets a new conditioning coach in the Diaz fight. This conditioning coach has gone on record to say "I give Manny a special BLEND, he has no idea what he takes"
Freddy Roach, a guy Pac has been knowing for yrz! says "I have a hard time giving him shakes and vitamins" WAIT!!!!!!!!
(A guy you just met can give you something and you have no idea what it is, but a guy you've known and trusted has a hard time giving you a shake? HMMMMMM
JESUS! help these people!!

By the way, I wonder if he roids during his training camp when he has to go against training spartners like Shawn Porter, a middleweight KO artist? Some have claimed PEDS are mostly used in training and cycled out before the fight, but that would mean that was Pacquiao's actual chin against Cotto? Please, dont' you IMADAZED ****** claim that excercising your neck muscles gives one a better chin against a good punch you don't see coming.

[rao007]

I never said it equates to anything. IT DOES LOOK FISHY, IT DOES LOOK ODD....and NO ne can deny that. I dont dislike Pac or Floyd and like and respect both of them but damn Pac looks bad in this one. I would rather be considered a cherry picker than a Roid user.

I agre completely...it does look fishy.

[cixthree]

I agre completely...it does look fishy.

Well I'd advise you to look up Victor Conte, he's the BALCO masterm ind. He speaks on all this stuff. And there is also a Dr. Catlin, they pretty much give you the details of how these things work.
I was stuck on just roids to, but these people cleared the air for me on a bunch of things

[rao007]

Well I'd advise you to look up Victor Conte, he's the BALCO masterm ind. He speaks on all this stuff. And there is also a Dr. Catlin, they pretty much give you the details of how these things work.
I was stuck on just roids to, but these people cleared the air for me on a bunch of things

Didnt' Conte specifically talk about EPO being the most beneficial PED out there? He also claims that HGH is anti-catabolic meaning you would actually be reducing in size rather than building things like muscle. But wait, aren't we talking about increasing muscle and developing better chins? Isn't that what Mayweather Sr. wanted the blood tests for?

[cixthree]

YEs I have ...I believe that Tim Smith would have possibly could have been put in a situation where he would have to disclose where he got his info. along with the individual who presented it. Not to mention confiscating the computer and hard drive of the Mystery emails that cannot be deleted off a hrad drive. With that I would just Ignore him and Teddy Atlas who alegedly knows the same guy.

WOW, and the rabbit hole goes deeper huh.... This is just insane to me...

My bet is, Manny never fights Floyd if he has to test. If he does test and fight, my bet is he will lose BAD. Then go off to sit in office, but his legacy will be that of Bonds... His whole history starting at the Diaz fight will forever be tainted ****

[HighFlyer]

My guess is, he'd be allowed to get away with it... What do you guys think
Don't attack me on this one, I'm just saying, if Manny was on something.
It seems like people are willing to put on blinders, not put any pressure on him to test.

My guess is if it were Floyd, the CIA, FBI and all other agencies would be in his ass.
Just my op.

if manny was juicing so his whole family is juicing and i wonder why his younger brother "Bobby Pacquiao" cant follow Manny's career footstep.

That PED thing humor comes from Floyd " Crackhead" Mayweather Sr.

[cixthree]

Didnt' Conte specifically talk about EPO being the most beneficial PED out there? He also claims that HGH is anti-catabolic meaning you would actually be reducing size than building things like muscle. But wait, aren't we talking about increasing muscle and developing better chins? Isn't that what Mayweather Sr. wanted the blood tests for?

Thats just it, WE DONT KNOW.
Manny has to test and come out clean and fight FLOYD to get his name cleared.
Yes Conte says HGH he is not a fan of, but EPO. This is where I started to understand the diff from roids and PEDS.
Its insane

[Bacatit]

nope ...america is the most racist country in the world....you think pac would get away with anything....theres no proof now yet hes guilty already..wtf?...****, a mofo who is a drug convict was the one who accused pac and now its gospel to them.....

To the Americans that matter Pac race is Green and Red. What about Arum & Roach ?

What would Pac be without the Americans that are so racist ?

[ALG United]

Proof? Well there is no proof he cheated on his wife, no proof Al Capone ran the mob, had people killed and so forth.
The proof is all the peices to the puzzle, why wasnt he able to knock JMM out in 2 blood wars, but he killed Cotto?
You're telling me JMM hits harder than Cotto?

With this kind of logic, a lot of us will be lynched or hang by our neck in front of thousands of people just by rumors alone, no need anymore for hard evidence, circumstantial evidence is enough proof to send somebody to the gas chamber.. Wtf is that?! After centuries of war for trying to defend and instill a common man's right and freedom, this is what you'll get from a present american man, Abraham Lincoln will ***e at all the americans that are acting like complete barbarians now..

[rao007]

WOW, and the rabbit hole goes deeper huh.... This is just insane to me...

My bet is, Manny never fights Floyd if he has to test. If he does test and fight, my bet is he will lose BAD. Then go off to sit in office, but his legacy will be that of Bonds... His whole history starting at the Diaz fight will forever be tainted ****

If Manny were going to lose to Mayweather it would be because of styles not because PEDs---just look at the counter punching of Marquez...now look at every single fight Pacquiao has had since he moved up from 130...Diaz, Hatton, Delahoya, Cotto----------all went forward, none were counter punchers.