did paul williams duck kelly pavlik?

[statosteve]

after pavliks last fight he called out williams and now williams is going back down in weight,to fight the little guys.i think williams no's he wont get past pavlik.

[Sweet Jesus]

If Williams really wanted Pavlik, he would accept 40-60...whoop pavlik's ass, and then EVERYONE would want to fight him because he'd be the UNDISPUTED MW CHAMP.

[statosteve]

there is no way williams will woop pavlik.unless he improves his boxing style.by yousing his reach.but 1 thing pavlik is just as tall as williams.has williams eva boxed against any1 his own size?i dobt it.pavlik by ko

[Jamel H]

so when Williams pushed back dates to fight Pavlik the first time he was duckin then to right? And if I agree Williams said he doesnt have a problem going up and down weight to get fights.

Why every time a fight falls through people claim its because SOMEONE is ducking SOMEONE?

[statosteve]

well why hasnt williams got his manager 2 get a fight with pavlik.when pavlik said he wants williams next?

[Spray_resistant]

so when Williams pushed back dates to fight Pavlik the first time he was duckin then to right? And if I agree Williams said he doesnt have a problem going up and down weight to get fights.

Why every time a fight falls through people claim its because SOMEONE is ducking SOMEONE?

Yeah, I mean that whole thing was a bad situation and I don't blame anyone person in particular.

Everyone jumped on Kelly for having a medical problem that would have effected his performance and called it a duck, and when Pwill signed to fight Sergio, Pavlik wanted the date a week or 2 later but by then Williams couldn't get out of the date or wouldn't. I wouldn't blame him either if he didn't want to so close to fight time, he having trained for Pavlik, then trained for Martinez all in a short span.

Though Pwill may have priced himself out here, Pavlik has what he wants not the other way around.....in any case I hope we get to see that one sometime.

[Sweet Jesus]

Yeah, I mean that whole thing was a bad situation and I don't blame anyone person in particular.

Everyone jumped on Kelly for having a medical problem that would have effected his performance and called it a duck, and when Pwill signed to fight Sergio, Pavlik wanted the date a week or 2 later but by then Williams couldn't get out of the date or wouldn't. I wouldn't blame him either if he didn't want to so close to fight time, he having trained for Pavlik, then trained for Martinez all in a short span.

Though Pwill may have priced himself out here, Pavlik has what he wants not the other way around.....in any case I hope we get to see that one sometime.

Yeah I really hope it gets made. IMO, it is the second biggest fight in boxing behind Floyd/manny.

[MELLY-MEL...]

yup..if ur so fuckin feared and no one will fight you why would you not take the 40-60? how about a rematch with martinez since u got a gift there as well? how about that paul? fuck this guy........he's as big a joke as his pole smoking nuthuggers!

[Lloyd Banks]

uhh no. the Williams camp originally agreed to a 60-40

[Iceta Lives]

yup..if ur so fuckin feared and no one will fight you why would you not take the 40-60? how about a rematch with martinez since u got a gift there as well? how about that paul? fuck this guy........he's as big a joke as his pole smoking nuthuggers!

Why do people keep talking out of there ass without concrete facts to back it up? He's already offering Martinez a **** load of money to rematch him and it's Martinez who's ducking the rematch, not the other way around. That's true regardless of who you think won the first fight. And Williams is demanding a 50/50 split because HBO don't care about Pavlik that much anymore. We can sit here and say it's wrong. But that's his right. We can't tell fighters how to negotiate.