Brian Kenny with Pacquiao grilled on blood testing - interview on Clottey fight

[Modobo3]

Its not like other boxing matches will have to do the same thing, plus it isn't part of the rules. If it was in the rules then Manny would have been doing them, but Mayweather had to try to get out of the fight without him looking like a *****, but he is still a ***** in my eyes.

WRONG!!!

Arthur Abraham has it in ALL of his contracts!!! All of them!!!

Evander Holyfield has also agreed to this type of testing in his fight with Tyson!

The idea of this never being asked before has already been debunked!!!

No hate just the facts!!! It's been done before!

Peace Mo!

[PAKYO]

Once again...I am just explaining it from Mayweather's point of view. If you would read the posts you would understand that. Dont get in a tizzie. I am actually pretty netural. But I also look at things unbiased. As I stated in a couple of posts up "I think Mayweather believes Pac is juicing" I never said I did. But I did say there really is no rational reason not to take the test 14 days ahead of time. Maybe Pac is just irrational. Nothing wrong with that. I guess.

What's more irrational? Making contradicting statements like 'legacy don't pay money' then make several absurd demands which can derail his chance to big money fight he will not get anywhere else or those what you're saying?

You're being pretty neutral is too obvious not to notice.

Pac doesn't need the money, he can still manage to get big money fight with or without floyd, so how about the fraud? Can he get the same big money fight nowadays? I don't think so...even if his opponent will eat **** on 24/7.


I'm not so excited with floyd's upcoming bouts anymore as i can expect already what kind of snore fest it will be, do you think people keeps getting conned always?

I don't exactly like Pac as a person, but as a boxer, he brings entertainment. Floyd on the other hand, naahhh, i have enough of him ripping me off.

[Modobo3]

[QUOTE=PAKYO;7337491]What's more irrational? Making contradicting statements like 'legacy don't pay money' then make several absurd demands which can derail his chance to big money fight he will not get anywhere else or those what you're saying?

You're being pretty neutral is too obvious not to notice.

Pac doesn't need the money, he can still manage to get big money fight with or without floyd, so how about the fraud? Can he get the same big money fight nowadays? I don't think so...even if his opponent will eat **** on 24/7.


I'm not so excited with floyd's upcoming bouts anymore as i can expect already what kind of snore fest it will be, do you think people keeps getting conned always?

I don't exactly like Pac as a person, but as a boxer, he brings entertainment. Floyd on the other hand, naahhh, i have enough of him ripping me off.[/QUOTE]

You made SOME fair points...

but first let me clarify what you said...Pac doesn't need the money (in red) then in very next sentence (in black) you talk about him getting big money fights without PBF...So is your point he fights for money or were you making the point that that he fights for legacy? or that he can make a LOT OF MONEY witout PBF?...

As it pertains to your first paragraph - and please clarify if I have it wrong -I disagree...first PBF is going to make somewhere in the range of 15 million dollars for his fight with Mosley - who might I add is rated #3 P4P which I might also add kills the ducking of tough challenges or true welterweights argument as well...Who will Pac fight to make that much money against? I'll answer that for you NOBODY!

...and many Pac loyalist don't believe a 10 million dollar penalty for coming in a SINGLE OZ over the 147lb weight limit ISN"T ABSURD...but I can tell you as a boxing fan that amount is absurd...Now don't get me wrong Manny has every right to SUSPECT PBF would come in overweight because HE DIDN'T come in at the contracted catchweight of 144 against JMM...However his fight with Pac is at the official WW limit of 147 and PBF came in overweight at 146 when he fought JMM, so TECHNICALLY he never came in over the official welterweight limit...which brings me to my point...Pac and his team put the 10 million dollar penalty in place to prevent PBF, who they SUSPECTED might come into fight over 147...OK FINE, you can SUSPECT he'll come in over 147 although he never has!!! and you can't say he did it INTENTINONALLY because there is no way of factually KNOWING that and saying he INTENTIALLY came in over 144 would be the same thing as accusing PAC for illegal PED use WITHOUT ANY FACTUAL EVIDENCE - AND TO WHICH I SAY IS F@CKING WRONG!!! But IT IS HOWEVER FAIR TO SUSPECT PBF would come in over 147 and to his credit PBF STILL AGREED TO THE ABSURD AMOUNT OF THE PENALTY...BTW the reason I personally think the 10 million dollar number is absurd, because it's technically the ENTIRE amount of Manny's purse against Clottey and how many Penalties have ever been that high in ANY SPORT IN THE HISTORY of the EARTH - I know i went a little overboard with the whole history of the earth thing but i was trying to drive home the point being - It's excessive and he still agreed...

Which leads me to my final point...If Manny and everyone else can FAIRLY SUSPECT PBF will come in overweight...Why can't PBF SUSPECT (NOT ACCUSE) THAT MANNY's on PED's??? Esspecially now??? YOU ONLY NEED ONE VALID REASON TO CAST SU****ION ON SOMEONE, CORRECT? - See above and below - FACT PAC'S TRAINER (Roach) ADMITTED THAT HE WAS AWARE OF JAMES TONEY'S STEROID USE DURING TRAINING CAMP PRIOR TO HIS VICTORY AGAINST JOHN RUIZ and please don't regurgitate an excuse for steroid use! Because their isn't a valid excuse and that is why he was subsequently STRIPPED...Then you COMPOUND that with everything that has been said by his team since the negotiations began and you reaaally have to be a Pac loyalist to not think he's SUSPECT in the very least?

O'yeah, Why esspecially now??? Let's see...LYING LYING and more LYING and throw in a few poor excuses while your at it...If you really have to ask what lies and what excuses...PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a little research - There are plenty of QUOTES and VIDEOS from MANNY, ARUM, ROACH, ARIZA's missteps and outright lies. When you get ready to reply to all of them first ask yourself Why do I have excuses for all of them??? then ask yourself is Manny, in the very least SUSPECT??? If it's NO, then you are a Pac loyalist or you have some crazy dislike of PBF...if the answer is yes...Then that's where you have to ask yourself why doesn't he take the tests with a 14 day cutoff that nearly 80% of the people from everywhere around the world thinks is fair...and that's without arguing the merits of doing it for 40 million dollars???

I'm willing to reply to any rebuttals based on facts or sound opinions as this isn't about who's better or who's scared, my like or dislike of Pac or PBF it's again based on facts... because enjoy watching him fight, will attend his next fight in Dallas and will watch him in the future - PBF included!

Peace Mo!

[EyeOpener]

Manny is looking guiltier and guiltier....Pac and his team have dug themselves a hole and look guilty as F***. Only two types of people see nothing wrong...obsessed fans and filipinos.

[iskucha03]

“It does not make sense for this to become a commission matter,” Schaefer told Yahoo! Sports. “This is a contractual matter. The commission did not decide the weights or the purse split or how the foreign television rights would be sold.

eat your contract

[MindBat]

Manny is looking guiltier and guiltier....Pac and his team have dug themselves a hole and look guilty as F***. Only two types of people see nothing wrong...obsessed fans and filipinos.

First it was that Floyd was easier to beat than Mosley and Cotto.

Then, it was that they'll pass any test in the world.

Then, it was that March was too soon for Manny.

Then, it was Manny doesn't know what goes into his own body.

Then, it's that Manny's afraid of needles.

Then, it's that Manny gets weak after blood tests.

Then, it's that no blood test the day of the fight.

Then, it's no blood test 30 days before the fight.

Then, it's no blood test 24 days before the fight.

Then, it's that Foreman's too tall.

Now, it's that blood test after the fight is unsanitary.

Also, that some nurses can't find a fighter's vein 'cause it happened to Arum once.

Waiting to hear the next one...

[EyeOpener]

First it was that Floyd was easier to beat than Mosley and Cotto.

Then, it was that they'll pass any test in the world.

Then, it was that March was too soon for Manny.

Then, it was Manny doesn't know what goes into his own body.

Then, it's that Manny's afraid of needles.

Then, it's that Manny gets weak after blood tests.

Then, it's that no blood test the day of the fight.

Then, it's no blood test 30 days before the fight.

Then, it's no blood test 24 days before the fight.

Then, it's that Foreman's too tall.

Now, it's that blood test after the fight is unsanitary.

Also, that some nurses can't find a fighter's vein 'cause it happened to Arum once.

Waiting to hear the next one...

Its absurd!
I see you too have been paying attention and are not blinded by fantaticism!
I should put all those excuses on my Sig so all these fans dont forget!
Not too mention how QUICKLY they signed to fight Clottey and some of these crazy interviews with PAc and Roach where they basically own themselves.

[MindBat]

Its absurd!
I see you too have been paying attention and are not blinded by fantaticism!
I should put all those excuses on my Sig so all these fans dont forget!
Not too mention how QUICKLY they signed to fight Clottey and some of these crazy interviews with PAc and Roach where they basically own themselves.

I'm serious. I'm now convinced they have a full time excuse creator employed
at Team Pacquiao headquarters.

[EyeOpener]

I'm serious. I'm now convinced they have a full time excuse creator employed
at Team Pacquiao headquarters.

Thats for sure. I mean dont get me wrong, I feel Floyd has cherry picked and have no problem admitting it but these people acting like Manny looks clean and everything is OK is stunning!
I like Manny but hope Clottey shocks the world because the humble guys have been getting the shaft for too long. Cotto got it mainly because he just wanted to fight and accepted all demands and im sure Clottey accepted all of Manny's demands. I hope he hits the lottery in this fight.

[MindBat]

Thats for sure. I mean dont get me wrong, I feel Floyd has cherry picked and have no problem admitting it but these people acting like Manny looks clean and everything is OK is stunning!
I like Manny but hope Clottey shocks the world because the humble guys have been getting the shaft for too long. Cotto got it mainly because he just wanted to fight and accepted all demands and im sure Clottey accepted all of Manny's demands. I hope he hits the lottery in this fight.

At first I was convinced Clottey had no chance of winning against Manny.

Now, I'm having second thoughts that Manny will probably let Clottey beat him so he doesn't have to ever face Floyd in the ring. He can retire soon after Clottey and be a full time politician. I'm not sure.

On the other hand, this is Clottey's big chance to prove he has what it takes to finally win a championship title. Depends how badly he wants it.