A Floyd win over Moseley is better than ANY win on Pacs resume.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

The argument is. Is Floyd beating Mosley right now better then any Pac win.

no its not...it would be a great win, but it doesn't trump the Barrera win...PAC was a huge underdog and was moving up in weight...

when the lines open for Shane-PBF, most likely he'll be the betting favorite

[jrosales13]

Was Oscar drained against Pac? Was Hatton drained against Pac?

Yes or No.

Hatton was not. he came in 140... Just like he came in against Paule and Lazcano...

Oscar was drained and old was your point? People knew Oscar was coming in at a weight-class he has not been in years... Pac was going to 147 after only having 1 fight at 135 and starting that year at 130... People including you picked Oscar to win after all this facts... So why get pissed at Pac now? Plus it was a money fight. And, I don't give Pac credit for that victory I give him credit on how he won though... Because he was a huge underdog just like I give credit to Shane for beating Margo... I am not like you bro I don't have double standards...

You asked a question about Margo and how was he drained when he can still fight at 147... And, I answered your question that he had to lose 2 lbs right before the official weigh-in when he did not have to... I didn't if you knew about that so I tried to educate you...

And, by the was as of right now... it is not a certain that Margo first fight back would be at 147... Because, he might fight Carson Jones who is campaigning at 154 now...

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no its not...it would be a great win, but it doesn't trump the Barrera win...PAC was a huge underdog and was moving up in weight...

when the lines open for Shane-PBF, most likely he'll be the betting favorite

Barrera was a good win.

I feel right now Shane being P4P number 3 and the best 147 Pounder in the world holds alot of weight.

[jrosales13]

The argument is. Is Floyd beating Mosley right now better then any Pac win.

Barrera>Mosley... but, Shane is Floyd best win... but it does not trump Pac best win...

[jrosales13]

That was Pacquiao's best win for me too, Because Barrera went on to achieve other things. Barrera made all those excuses about a metal plate in his head blah blah blah but i dont buy it.

I didn't buy it either...

[fightingfigs]

Fact.

Moseley is an ATG and better than any of the fighters on Pac's resume, including Cotto.

NOT REALLY, I would give him the credit he deserves for finally figthign a legitimate elite Welter but I would have to say that Pacquiaos Cotto win was equally as impressive.

[-Reflexes-]

Hatton was not. he came in 140... Just like he came in against Paule and Lazcano...

He was rumored to be well over 200 Pounds by the UK fans. Ask Earl Hickey he was telling me about it. They said he was extremely big before the Pac fight.

Oscar was drained and old was your point? People knew Oscar was coming in at a weight-class he has not been in years... Pac was going to 147 after only having 1 fight at 135 and starting that year at 130... People including you picked Oscar to win after all this facts... So why get pissed at Pac now? Plus it was a money fight. And, I don't give Pac credit for that victory I give him credit on how he won though... Because he was a huge underdog just like I give credit to Shane for beating Margo... I am not like you bro I don't have double standards...


What double standards??? I picked Oscar to win based ont he fact he was fighting a LIGHTWEIGHT! Thats it. And If 99% of all boxing fans picked Oscar. They were right in believeing that. NO ONE knew how Pac would look at 147. The whole WORLD picked Oscar.

You asked a question about Margo and how was he drained when he can still fight at 147... And, I answered your question that he had to lose 2 lbs right before the official weigh-in when he did not have to... I didn't if you knew about that so I tried to educate you...

Thats not drained thats being lazy.

And, by the was as of right now... it is not a certain that Margo first fight back would be at 147... Because, he might fight Carson Jones who is campaigning at 154 now...

Well Arum said he wants a Pac-Marg fight in the summer and that would have to be at 147.

Also Marg is not very good at 154. I would favor him vs. NO ONE.

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[rommel357]

The argument is. Is Floyd beating Mosley right now better then any Pac win.

How can you even contemplate that if Mosley is not in his prime and is 38yrs old. If Floyd beats Mosley, he will be given the proper credit that is due, which is he finally beat a true top WW. But to compare this win to any of Manny's win that we don't know if Floyd is going to dominate or get another Split decision is very premature.

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Barrera>Mosley... but, Shane is Floyd best win... but it does not trump Pac best win...

I think it is IMO. People saying Barerra are basing that on the fact that Pac was a huge dog. That means nothing. That just means no one knew who he was.

IMO there isnt a fighter on Pacs resume that compares to the P4P NUmber 3 and best 147 Pounder.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Barrera was a good win.

I feel right now Shane being P4P number 3 and the best 147 Pounder in the world holds alot of weight.

yea, it holds weight but take away the Margarito fight and what you have is a Shane who struggled against Mayorga and lost to Cotto


conversely, the Barrera who PAC faced was also highly rated and had just strung a streak of 7 or 8 straight wins with names like El Terrible, Salud, Hamed, Tapia and Kevin Kelly



and after that fight, to prove that he wasn't done, he went on to win another world title at a higher weight