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  • horge
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    A Day, Fourteen, or Twenty-Four

    First off, I'm a Pacfan.

    The interview with Brian Kenny struck me as more of the
    same double/tripletalk that I'd earlier blamed on differences
    within Team Pac. Now I see it can be blamed on but one person:
    Manny Pacquiao.

    Yes, he'll do blood tests, just not on fight night...
    Yes, he'll do blood tests, but 14 days will ruin training...
    Yes, he'll do blood tests, but 30 days is the minimum....
    Fuck that ****.... lol...

    Is he afraid of Floyd? Floyd isn't a power puncher, and
    Manny's gone into brutal wars, so maybe no. Manny can't
    be afraid of an L either: no loss-****** is he. Is he juicing?
    I dunno, but he's had roughly the same ring weight since
    he KO'd Erik Morales in '06, and he's had power since he
    first put on gloves.

    So what's Manny's problem, you ask?
    I'll tell you what I think is the root of his triplespeak:

    He has all the integrity of a thieving, hustling streetkid,
    but without a hustler's smarts. He's always holding out
    for a better deal, never commiting to anything if it curbs
    his access to possibly better terms, but he hasn't the
    skill to hide his intentions.

    It's been on full display for YEARS, and most of us have
    ignored it or dismissed it, because we prefer to hail the
    fighter, than to harangue the fool:

    He signed with Top Rank, and signed with GBP, happy to
    take signing bonuses from both, until the harsh reality of
    the law forced a firm choice from him. Why didn't he
    just sign with Top Rank, period?

    He signed exclusive TV rights to one network, and then
    shopped the same rights to a network rival, taking money
    from both, until the law again forced a choice.
    Why didn't he sign with just one of them?

    He says he'll fight ANYONE up to 147, then is happy to
    watch Mosley and then Cotto subjected to ridiculous
    catchweight stipulations. Why not stick to his declared
    "147", especially since he's now willing to face Clottey
    at proper weight --or have all the allegations forced him
    to abandon the questionability of catchweights?

    In the past, his contradictory behavior has been excused
    because he's a star, and he gives us good fights. Now, his
    contradictions have deprived us of a great fight.

    From his past pattern of behavior, Manny would have had
    to be forced, by legal or public pressure, to live up to
    his declaration of "just not on the day of the fight itself".
    Whether the blood tests were just or not, he'd said it.

    I'm no streetkid, but I'm no trust-fund baby either.
    A man's word ought to mean something.


    Anyway, I hope Pac-Clottey and Mayweather-Mosley do
    good numbers and give great entertainment. The sport
    badly needs to make it up to the fans.


    h.
  • The Great Shark
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    #2
    Makes people wonder what his next excuse is going to be..

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    • -MAKAVELLI-
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      #3
      Originally posted by horge
      First off, I'm a Pacfan.

      The interview with Brian Kenny struck me as more of the
      same double/tripletalk that I'd earlier blamed on differences
      within Team Pac. Now I see it can be blamed on but one person:
      Manny Pacquiao.

      Yes, he'll do blood tests, just not on fight night...
      Yes, he'll do blood tests, but 14 days will ruin training...
      Yes, he'll do blood tests, but 30 days is the minimum....
      Fuck that ****.... lol...

      Is he afraid of Floyd? Floyd isn't a power puncher, and
      Manny's gone into brutal wars, so maybe no. Manny can't
      be afraid of an L either: no loss-****** is he. Is he juicing?
      I dunno, but he's had roughly the same ring weight since
      he KO'd Erik Morales in '06, and he's had power since he
      first put on gloves.

      So what's Manny's problem, you ask?
      I'll tell you what I think is the root of his triplespeak:

      He has all the integrity of a thieving, hustling streetkid,
      but without a hustler's smarts. He's always holding out
      for a better deal, never commiting to anything if it curbs
      his access to possibly better terms, but he hasn't the
      skill to hide his intentions.

      It's been on full display for YEARS, and most of us have
      ignored it or dismissed it, because we prefer to hail the
      fighter, than to harangue the fool:

      He signed with Top Rank, and signed with GBP, happy to
      take signing bonuses from both, until the harsh reality of
      the law forced a firm choice from him. Why didn't he
      just sign with Top Rank, period?

      He signed exclusive TV rights to one network, and then
      shopped the same rights to a network rival, taking money
      from both, until the law again forced a choice.
      Why didn't he sign with just one of them?

      He says he'll fight ANYONE up to 147, then is happy to
      watch Mosley and then Cotto subjected to ridiculous
      catchweight stipulations. Why not stick to his declared
      "147", especially since he's now willing to face Clottey
      at proper weight --or have all the allegations forced him
      to abandon the questionability of catchweights?

      In the past, his contradictory behavior has been excused
      because he's a star, and he gives us good fights. Now, his
      contradictions have deprived us of a great fight.

      From his past pattern of behavior, Manny would have had
      to be forced, by legal or public pressure, to live up to
      his declaration of "just not on the day of the fight itself".
      Whether the blood tests were just or not, he'd said it.

      I'm no streetkid, but I'm no trust-fund baby either.
      A man's word ought to mean something.


      Anyway, I hope Pac-Clottey and Mayweather-Mosley do
      good numbers and give great entertainment. The sport
      badly needs to make it up to the fans.


      h.




      i bet you he agrees to the testing if they give him 60/40



      true story

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      • sNiTcH
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        #4
        you can differentiate a troll and a boxing fan

        Those 3 cut offs are negotations for both fighters to meet on the excuse i mean demand of floyd

        Anyway, move one.... we still have more fights coming in!

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        • -Reflexes-
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          #5
          Brian made him look like a third grader. 14 Days was more then fair and Pac declined.

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          • sNiTcH
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            #6
            Originally posted by -Reflexes-
            Brian made him look like a third grader. 14 Days was more then fair and Pac declined.
            Pacman said he wont agree on the cut off a day before the fight. There's no link that he refused the 14 days cut off

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            • -Reflexes-
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              #7
              Originally posted by sNiTcH
              Pacman said he wont agree on the cut off a day before the fight. There's no link that he refused the 14 days cut off


              Also

              Arum, however, says Pacquiao has known about the 14 days since Jan. 1 and said he had an email exchange between DuBoef and Pacquiao's advisor, Michael Koncz, that prove that Pacquiao had received the offer and rejected it.





              Try again bud. Manny ducked the fight.

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              • ThePunchingBag
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                #8
                You're going off an interview where the man can't even defend himself properly?

                Some of your points are valid, but you can't **** on a guy who's limited by language and therefore can't fully comprehend or articulate on his answers.

                Pac should get an interpreter if reporters are going to ask him hardball questions.

                That's my take.

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                • sNiTcH
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                  #9
                  I need an article that PACMAN himself disagree to the random test. not his promoter or a friend etc..

                  Based on the media, even today, he just dont want to have a test a day before the fight.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by -Reflexes-
                    Brian made him look like a third grader.
                    You're too generous, a 1st grader at best. Dude, didn't even go to school.

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