Manny Paquaio on why he didn't want to take the blood test [interview]

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  • rao007
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    #161
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Really? Have you listened to all of Roach's interviews? He switches up like a bisexual. See, you're working under the assumption that he's being truthful. I'm working under the assumption (after hearing him switch enough times) that he's a liar.
    Again, you're under the assumption that he's also lying...it goes both ways...where did Roach get the idea that Mayweather turned down the 14 days? What are his sources to switch positions?




    So quote them and respond to them. Don't quote me. I could care less how he talks - I'm more interested in what he says.
    That's my point...if he cannot articulate his position clearly what do his statements really mean?



    Only in your world is it simple. In our world, saying:

    1. Just not the day before the fight is contrary to 24 days before the fight.

    2. Gets weak for three days doesn't constitute 24 days before the fight.

    How come you don't question that, instead it's so "simple?" I think we know why. Boy, you've come a long way, rao. Bet you didn't think it would get this far, would it? I warned you the storm was coming. Look over the horizon, it's just underway
    Pacquiao has repeated the same statements before, over and over. He said just not on the day of the fight but agrees only to 24 days? I mean, doesn't that sound so illogical yet some people compliment how cunning and deceptive Pacquiao is.

    Look at all of Pacquiao's statements if you like...he never wanted blood testing that would interfere with his training leading up to the fight and any before the fight. Call it fishy but he has never waivered from this stance.

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    • Syf
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      #162
      Originally posted by RockStar45
      You just made my point.
      Its not Mccarthyism.. Mccarthy tore all around accusing mofos of being communist right? Ruined their lives. Lots of hollywood cats too.

      The difference here is pac had a chance to prove he wasn't "commie", whereas in the red scare, people weren't given that chance

      Same with the witch hunts of Salem, them women weren't given a chance.

      So don't be so ****in melodramatic, whoever said that... pac had full opportunity to clear his name, and he didn't.

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      • Marijuana
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        #163
        For the sake of boxing, I really hope Pacquiao is clean.

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        • p4p-champ
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          #164
          Originally posted by Palokaj
          you getting on my nerves; get a life b*tch.
          Don't be mad because current drug testing in boxing is a joke. Its no conspiracy theory, its fact.

          Is Pacquiao-Mayweather debacle beginning of change in boxing's drug culture?

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          • Athrun340
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            #165
            Originally posted by RockStar45
            I think anyone with an unbiased view who followed what was happening realizes that the fight was doomed once Golden Boy refused to go to Dallas.

            My theory: Arum promised to deliver a Pacquiao fight to Cowboys Stadium behind the scenes with Jones without Schaefer's knowledge. Once it was clear Golden Boy/Mayweather wanted the fight in Dallas, Arum was looking for ways to get out of the fight. Every day, even when there were reports that Pacquiao and Roach were willing to compromise on the blood tests, Arum was busy giving deadlines and ultimatums and talking about how the fight was dead. It also explains why they were able to put together a deal for Pacquiao-Clottey so quickly. He was the only person involved who looked like he didn't want the fight to take place.

            Bob Arum killed the fight.
            thats a big possibility. Also how many times did Arum say "let's revisit this fight in fall"? alot. Bhop predicted this is gonna happen as well last year.

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              #166
              Originally posted by p4p-champ
              Don't be mad because current drug testing in boxing is a joke. Its no conspiracy theory, its fact.
              so what you gonna do about it? keep b*tching around? you are nobody you can't change a damn thing so GFOH!

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              • damned1974
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                #167
                Personally,I believe Manny lacks any real depth with his logic of the blood tests.The manner in which he responds seems to be "thought-out" yet lacks any reasoning.
                After hearing these series of excuses before the current one, it just seems dodgy to me...when you have this many excuses and cannot seem to get the story straight from day one,I would believe there is a severe problem-especially when you compare the difference from the first excuse and contrast and compare it to the more recent one.It forces su****ion to any neutral,objective and logical person.Most of the excuses just seem to contradict themselves.There is a saying-"there is a little truth in every lie", but this seems to be a "a lot of lies with every excuse"...
                1-fear of needles (yet has tattoos)
                2-fear of blood (bleeds in the ring and has tattoos)
                3-supersticion (???)
                4-it will "weaken" him before a few days (so Floyd offers 2 weeks and he makes a new excuse)
                5-only 24 days before the fight (this would still leave time to exploit PED usage)
                6-he won't be bullied by Floyd (come on,who bullied who in the negotiations-in fact,his last 2 fights were at some point nearly called off because of Manny's negotiations-even though the belt-holders got the less share and less negotiating grounds)
                7 pride (proud,yet humble...hmmm-contrasting traits.He has been training his whole life for this big of a fight,money and legacy-why would you dodge it for a smaller pay-day,a fight with Clottey that gives NO legacy, and isn't half as big as the Floyd fight???)
                Last edited by damned1974; 01-20-2010, 03:31 PM.

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                • southcentralcar
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by Palokaj
                  so what you gonna do about it? keep b*tching around? you are nobody you can't change a damn thing so GFOH!
                  chill chill as i like saying these days: truth hurts

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                  • Ravishing
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah
                    Pac's english is too bad for him to answer these questions. a lot is being lost in translation.

                    ive seen almost all of pac's fights since he made it big in america & every single interview he does he cant even properly answer a boxing question when it comes to proper analysis.

                    Pac is not getting a fair shake here. his engish is too bad to properly answer the testing questions.

                    what is happening to him is utterly repugnant. a clean fighter who has passed all tests & no evidence of steroid use is being branded a cheater.

                    This is the very essence of McCarthyism.
                    Damn...you're taking me back to SUNY Geneseo's American History. We read the "Fight for America" book my second semester. ****'s pretty damn interesting and crazy at the same time. This is pretty much a documented version of the book.



                    Obviously the book is much more detailed as far as how the author broke down everything and there are similarities to the Pacquiao situation, but the core idea does stand stand and overall is actually happening now with the way the US looks at foreigners (mainly of Arab descent).
                    Last edited by Ravishing; 01-20-2010, 03:24 PM.

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                    • Doctor_Tenma
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by rao007
                      Again, you're under the assumption that he's also lying...it goes both ways...where did Roach get the idea that Mayweather turned down the 14 days? What are his sources to switch positions?





                      That's my point...if he cannot articulate his position clearly what do his statements really mean?




                      Pacquiao has repeated the same statements before, over and over. He said just not on the day of the fight but agrees only to 24 days? I mean, doesn't that sound so illogical yet some people compliment how cunning and deceptive Pacquiao is.

                      Look at all of Pacquiao's statements if you like...he never wanted blood testing that would interfere with his training leading up to the fight and any before the fight. Call it fishy but he has never waivered from this stance.
                      So when Roach said "They wanted OSDT, we said no problem". Or when he said "We're willing to take whatever test". Roach decided that on his own?

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