*******s LIED about Floyd's ILLEGAL use of Xylocaine!!!!!

[Xplosivo]

Add this also, it is Banned.

De La Hoya was given a shot of Lidocaine the day of the injury to numb the cut area so the stitches could be taken. Lidocaine is a substance banned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. But Marc Ratner, CEO of the commission, said there is no violation as long as De La Hoya informed the commission when he took it and why.

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:...ient=firefox-a


Kizer confirmed yesterday that lidocaine is banned for use by boxers within a week of a bout. “If lidocaine is injected,” he said, “the pain receptors in the boxer may not work and he may not know if he is hurt.” He also confirmed that lidocaine would be tested for after the bout, at the Quest Diagnostics laboratory in the city.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle3019074.ece



Nevada boxing officials said yesterday they would fine and probably suspend Lloyd Honeyghan. They said the British fighter tested positive for the painkilling drug lidocaine after losing his World Boxing Council welterweight title to Marlon Starling on Feb. 4.

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/18/sp...l?pagewanted=1

And this is from 1989

Points to be noted:

Floyd has never tested positive for it, unlike Honeyghan who probably used it within the week of the bout

It is legal in Nevada, but *******s LIED and posted it is illegal in 49 states YET havent been able to provide a single credible source on it being illegal in the 49 states. Bull****ters

Floyd is willing to be tested for anything, Manny isn't

"Oscar informed Marc Ratner CEO of Nevada Atheletic Commission and said there is no violation as long as De La Hoya informed the commission when he took it and why."

Interesting, now read this from my first post:

"C. LOCAL ANAESTHETICS

• Injectable local anaesthetics are permitted under the following conditions:
• a. bupivacaine, lidocaine, mepivacaine, procaine, and related substances, can be used but not *******. Vasoconstrictor agents may be used in conjunction with local anesthetics
• b- only local or intra- articular injections may be administered;

• c. only when medically justified .W here the rules of the governing body so provide, notification of administration may be necessary."


So doesn't floyd inform them why he is using it? (Hand conditions)

So my question for the *******s, isn't breaking your hands a medical condition?

[rommel357]

You do realized that it was part of their contract to ask for that type of testing, and the fact that Manny "talk to my promoters" Pacquiao and his team had no problems with it, but only backed out weeks later after they agreed that Floyd can ask for any testing procedures that he wanted, and they would only needed 5 days to recovered from a teaspoon of blood. You do realized that, Team Pacquiao were the ones whom was contemplating about fighting someone else before they agreed to fight Floyd. You do realized that, Floyd and his team made a last offer of 14 days-cut since Manny didn't agreed to be testing randomly, and most of the fellow Pac fans agreed that the 14 days-cut was fair.

I realize all of that and even agreed that the 14 days cut off date was fair. But you're still not realizing that if it wasn't for this blood test to begin with, they would be fighting in March 13, that is the bottom line. Nothing else would've mattered, forget the 30 days, the 24 days, the 14 days, none of that would've been an issue. The standard test would've signed the deal. Everything was done and finalized up until the blood test issue. Why do people keep forgeting that or just simply not accepting that simple fact. Furthermore, Manny's camp was the one that approached Mayweather's camp.

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That's your ****ing proof! LOL!!!!! And you have the nerve to call us *******s when you just made that ****ing ******ed statement, dude get back in the short bus that you rode in.

no need for getting a seizure *******, that isn't a proof but it is a fact manny denied the drug testing and floyd didnt, they were supposed to go through the same procedure. pacquiao made all demands and floyd agreed to them, floyd made one and pacquiao disagreed. why? can you tell me?

[Carpe Diem]

Manny Pacquiao:"I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the Press Release. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room. I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight".


Floyd offered him two weeks to recovered, and he rejected it. Two-weeks is more than enough time.

[Xplosivo]

You haven't asnwered my post and my question, where's your proof that Manny is using steroids or PEDs. C'mon bro, man up.

BTW, DE100 posted legit articles about boxer getting suspended and fined for using lidocane, if that's not enough proof, then you're truly ******ed.

you are a true definition of a "*******"..do you realise the links DE100 posted are supporting my arguements, not against them?

Read my last post:

Add this also, it is Banned.

De La Hoya was given a shot of Lidocaine the day of the injury to numb the cut area so the stitches could be taken. Lidocaine is a substance banned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. But Marc Ratner, CEO of the commission, said there is no violation as long as De La Hoya informed the commission when he took it and why.

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:...ient=firefox-a


Kizer confirmed yesterday that lidocaine is banned for use by boxers within a week of a bout. “If lidocaine is injected,” he said, “the pain receptors in the boxer may not work and he may not know if he is hurt.” He also confirmed that lidocaine would be tested for after the bout, at the Quest Diagnostics laboratory in the city.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle3019074.ece



Nevada boxing officials said yesterday they would fine and probably suspend Lloyd Honeyghan. They said the British fighter tested positive for the painkilling drug lidocaine after losing his World Boxing Council welterweight title to Marlon Starling on Feb. 4.

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/18/sp...l?pagewanted=1

And this is from 1989

Points to be noted:

Floyd has never tested positive for it, unlike Honeyghan who probably used it within the week of the bout, as the article provided by DE100 states that it is only illegal if it is used within one week before the fight and if it is, it is detected like it was against Honeyghan. Marc Ratner the CEO of Nevada Athletic Comission also clarified it is legal if the fighter informs when and why he is taking it (Hint: Floyds hand problems, Another Hint: Medical conditions (Broken hands)

It is legal in Nevada, but *******s LIED and posted it is illegal in 49 states YET havent been able to provide a single credible source on it being illegal in the 49 states. Bull****ters

Floyd is willing to be tested for anything, Manny isn't

"Oscar informed Marc Ratner CEO of Nevada Atheletic Commission and said there is no violation as long as De La Hoya informed the commission when he took it and why."

Interesting, now read this from my first post which was retrived by credible sources such as WADA and USADA:

"C. LOCAL ANAESTHETICS

• Injectable local anaesthetics are permitted under the following conditions:
• a. bupivacaine, lidocaine, mepivacaine, procaine, and related substances, can be used but not *******. Vasoconstrictor agents may be used in conjunction with local anesthetics
• b- only local or intra- articular injections may be administered;

• c. only when medically justified .W here the rules of the governing body so provide, notification of administration may be necessary."


So doesn't floyd inform them why he is using it? (Hand conditions)

So my question for the *******s, isn't breaking your hands a medical condition?

[Xplosivo]

Manny Pacquiao:"I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the Press Release. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room. I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight".


Floyd offered him two weeks to recovered, and he rejected it. Two-weeks is more than enough time.

And once again.....:

[rommel357]

no need for getting a seizure *******, that isn't a proof but it is a fact manny denied the drug testing and floyd didnt, they were supposed to go through the same procedure. pacquiao made all demands and floyd agreed to them, floyd made one and pacquiao disagreed. why? can you tell me?

So where's your proof? Manny not agreeing to the blood test with only 14 days cut off is your proof. Get your facts straight, Manny did not deny the drug test, he compromised and agreed to a blood test in his own terms. Whether you agree to it or not is another issue, but don't spin it like all you *****s have and say that Manny completely did not agree to any drug test. You want to talk thrash, that's fine, but at least be honest and man up and admit that you don't have any proof but yet you still think that Manny is juicing. Which is why it's funny and ironic that you're asking *******s to show proof that lidocane is illegal in 49 states. See the irony now.

[Xplosivo]

So where's your proof? Manny not agreeing to the blood test with only 14 days cut off is your proof. Get your facts straight, Manny did not deny the drug test, he compromised and agreed to a blood test in his own terms. Whether you agree to it or not is another issue, but don't spin it like all you *****s have and say that Manny completely did not agree to any drug test. You want to talk thrash, that's fine, but at least be honest and man up and admit that you don't have any proof but yet you still think that Manny is juicing. Which is why it's funny and ironic that you're asking *******s to show proof that lidocane is illegal in 49 states. See the irony now.

How about you try to stick to the topic? we can discuss all the other things in other threads, but this thread is exposing the LIES of *******s. People never said pacquiao was on roids, they are just su****ious because he wont take tests, floyd is willing to take all tests to prove himself clean. There is a difference between being su****ious and FLATOUT LYING about "it is illegal in 49 states" Now stick to the topic.

[rommel357]

How about you try to stick to the topic? we can discuss all the other things in other threads, but this thread is exposing the LIES of *******s. People never said pacquiao was on roids, they are just su****ious because he wont take tests, floyd is willing to take all tests to prove himself clean. There is a difference between being su****ious and FLATOUT LYING about "it is illegal in 49 states" Now stick to the topic.

You just FLATOUT LIED about Manny denying a drug test when clearly he didn't. So where's you proof. Why won't you admit that you don't have any proof that Manny is taking steroids or PEDs.

[Carpe Diem]

I realize all of that and even agreed that the 14 days cut off date was fair. But you're still not realizing that if it wasn't for this blood test to begin with, they would be fighting in March 13, that is the bottom line. Nothing else would've mattered, forget the 30 days, the 24 days, the 14 days, none of that would've been an issue. The standard test would've signed the deal. Everything was done and finalized up until the blood test issue. Why do people keep forgeting that or just simply not accepting that simple fact. Furthermore, Manny's camp was the one that approached Mayweather's camp.

Team Floyd were the ones who wanted to get the fight done. Bob Arum tried everything to got out of the fight, and he succeeded. Team Floyd didn't gave up, they were only trying to fight Manny, and him only. They didn't had any backup plans to fight anyone else, they weren't contemplating about any other opponents. Yes, everything was finalized, but the Blood issue wasn't an issue from the beginning, when Manny "talk to my promoters" Pacquiao and his camp said that they would only needed at least 5 days to recovered from the blood test.

"If they give me a 5-day window or something like that I have no problem with it," Roach said. "When they've drawn blood from Manny in the past he feels weaker for three or four days. It may be mental, but it's there."