Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao, Mayweather Pass Nevada Drug Tests

[stormfroe]

The term "PEDs" encompasses many different types of Performance Enhancing Drugs.

Some can be detected in urine, but not all. The most effective way is to do urine and blood tests, because you can't hide changes in your blood as easy as you can with urine.

still not a 100% tool to trace peds.

packy is screwed. even from the beginning.

[Carpe Diem]

Anyone who is against better testing procedures is an idiot. If i am paying 60-70 per PPV fights, i would want to make sure it's worth paying for.

[cherokee]

up yours floyd!!!

[sNiTcH]

The term "PEDs" encompasses many different types of Performance Enhancing Drugs.

Some can be detected in urine, but not all. The most effective way is to do urine and blood tests, because you can't hide changes in your blood as easy as you can with urine.

Urine Tests cannot detect EPO, HGH and other steroids.

here's the link

http://www.ehow.com/facts_5732723_there-test-detect-hgh-use_.html

Urine Test
# In 2008, USA Today reported that a collaboration between American and Italian scientists produced a test that detects HGH use via urine samples.
Effectiveness of Urine Test
# According to USA Today, the urine test can detect HGH two weeks after use. This is because the test involves a particle that traps HGH molecules and amplifies their presence so the hormone can be identified.

2008 and we are now in 2010.

[Biolink]

still not a 100% tool to trace peds.

packy is screwed. even from the beginning.

Sure it'd be nice to be to know 100%, but it doesn't seem likely as of now, considering the drugs are out of the body in an absurdly short amount of time

What the Cyclists do though is look for a certain element in your blood. They draw blood, wait a while, then draw it again. If the element is unnaturally higher than what it once was, they suspend you, because they know you're on EPO.

(*And yes before anyone mentions it, I know EPO can be tested for in Urine, but the Doctors have mentioned Mircera, as being a type of EPO that did the same thing and was virtually undetectable, so its not like there's only one variant of the drug to get the desired results).

[Biolink]

here's the link

http://www.ehow.com/facts_5732723_there-test-detect-hgh-use_.html

Urine Test
# In 2008, USA Today reported that a collaboration between American and Italian scientists produced a test that detects HGH use via urine samples.
Effectiveness of Urine Test
# According to USA Today, the urine test can detect HGH two weeks after use. This is because the test involves a particle that traps HGH molecules and amplifies their presence so the hormone can be identified.

2008 and we are now in 2010.

Its a step in the right direction, but its more than likely not even approved yet, because if so it would have replaced blood testing already.

I'm not sure you're aware of the amount of work it takes to get an experimental testing policy approved for widespread use.

Even if it does get approved, its going to take years for testing agencies to want to trust its results and accuracy over blood.

[Steven Adams]

really now? oh did they? wow.. im suprized tsk tsk

[DAN916]

here's the link

http://www.ehow.com/facts_5732723_there-test-detect-hgh-use_.html

Urine Test
# In 2008, USA Today reported that a collaboration between American and Italian scientists produced a test that detects HGH use via urine samples.
Effectiveness of Urine Test
# According to USA Today, the urine test can detect HGH two weeks after use. This is because the test involves a particle that traps HGH molecules and amplifies their presence so the hormone can be identified.

2008 and we are now in 2010.

The World Anti-Doping Agency (Agency mayweather wanted to use) typically recommends urine tests for out-of-competition testing and blood tests for in-competition testing. Urine testing is used more universally because it is less expensive and has fewer complications. Blood testing, however, is more sensitive, and tends to detect anabolic steroids even when a urine test cannot. It is the best test to detect human growth hormone (HGH).

[noroi]

You can't condemn Pac without condemning every fighter that has fought in Nevada and taken the same tests. You can't condemn him for not taking the other test unless you condemn every other fighter who has never taken that test. If you assume Pac is on PED's, you have to assume every fighter is on PED's. If you single out Pac for taking and passing the same tests as everyone else, you're biased.
If he ever tests dirty I'll call him a cheat. Until that happens he is no different than any other fighter.

bull's-eye!!!

[Biolink]

You can't condemn Pac without condemning every fighter that has fought in Nevada and taken the same tests. You can't condemn him for not taking the other test unless you condemn every other fighter who has never taken that test. If you assume Pac is on PED's, you have to assume every fighter is on PED's. If you single out Pac for taking and passing the same tests as everyone else, you're biased.
If he ever tests dirty I'll call him a cheat. Until that happens he is no different than any other fighter.

That's a stretch to say somebody may or may not be biased for having an opinion about 1 person, but maybe not another.

For example people were coming down on Bonds, Sosa, and McGwire a lot throughout that whole steroid saga. No one ever came down on Frank Thomas, Ken Griffey Jr., or Jim Thome though.

It might not be fair, but when you're that great that's how it is.