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  • project xxx1
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    #71
    Originally posted by SekondzOut
    its deeper than ANYONE here might think.....I'll leave it at that before the TRUTH start a riot up on here!!
    i hear you big man and your right,it would blow this thread up big time

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    • Tom_Tocca
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      #72
      Originally posted by Ray`
      Mosley, Paul Williams, Bradley all considered to have exciting style and polite personality = No fanbase or Not PPV relevant, Mayweather who is obnoxious, Arrogant, Rude = Great fanbase (Hugger+Haters), PPV magnet!!!


      WTF????
      Does this maybe reflect the American attitude to life...just sayin...

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        #73
        That's because Bradley and Williams are young fighters...

        And Mosley isn't prime WW Mosley in the early 2000's...

        Floyd's first PPV didn't come until 2005...

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          #74
          Originally posted by Ray`
          Mosley, Paul Williams, Bradley all considered to have exciting style and polite personality = No fanbase or Not PPV relevant, Mayweather who is obnoxious, Arrogant, Rude = Great fanbase (Hugger+Haters), PPV magnet!!!


          WTF????
          its boxing mate....remember muhammad ali used to do all sorts of outrageous things and people found that amusing.... NOT THAT i am comparing Mayweather jr anywhere near ali...hes not even in the same league as him

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            #75
            Originally posted by Tom_Tocca
            Does this maybe reflect the American attitude to life...just sayin...


            Well thats what i would like to know, I mean do you have to act or be obnoxious to be successful??? Do you have to go the Mayweather route to be known/famous etc

            I dont know if these is the american way but i just dont get why some fighters dont get the recognition that others get.

            I mean Nonito Donaire is filipino and a very good boxer who i think KNOWN how to box, He doesnt have the exciting Pacquiao style so he doesnt get the adulation that someone like Pac gets so that makes sense but american boxers on the other hand its the opposite.

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              #76
              Originally posted by The_Executioner
              That's because Bradley and Williams are young fighters...

              And Mosley isn't prime WW Mosley in the early 2000's...

              Floyd's first PPV didn't come until 2005...

              Floyd didnt fight on PPV till 2005 but boxing HAD alot of PPV attraction at the time, Nowadays we only have a few guys PPV-wise, So more fighters should have come through in that sense.

              And Paul williams is that young Maybe Bradley but not williams IMO.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Ray`


                Well thats what i would like to know, I mean do you have to act or be obnoxious to be successful??? Do you have to go the Mayweather route to be known/famous etc

                I dont know if these is the american way but i just dont get why some fighters dont get the recognition that others get.

                I mean Nonito Donaire is filipino and a very good boxer who i think KNOWN how to box, He doesnt have the exciting Pacquiao style so he doesnt get the adulation that someone like Pac gets so that makes sense but american boxers on the other hand its the opposite.
                Shane Mosley is successful...along with Evander Holyfield, Roy Jones Jr, Sugar Ray Leonard, and many others...

                Ray Leonard was a gentleman and the media loved him...

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Ray`

                  Floyd didnt fight on PPV till 2005 but boxing HAD alot of PPV attraction at the time, Nowadays we only have a few guys PPV-wise, So more fighters should have come through in that sense.

                  And Paul williams is that young Maybe Bradley but not williams IMO.
                  Well it takes time to build a fanbase...Paul Williams didn't headline his first real event until he fought Margarito in 2007...that was Paul's first title fight...only 2-3 years ago

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                    #79
                    Truth is the media in the US doesn't want to promote black fighters, they wants good ol boys like Kelly Pavlik. The only way a black fighter in the US can get boxing press is if he plays the *******, arrogant, heel. Look at RJJ, Ali, Floyd Mayweather Jr., B-Hop, and James Toney all ****ted on by the media, until they lost or got old. Hell even Vernon Forrest tried to play the bad guy in his fight with Sergio just to get ****ing press.

                    Now the real truth is the media in the US wants blacks to play the "good boy" role so they can easily cast them aside and tell them they'll get noticed one day, but not now. Look at Shane Mosley, Vernon Forrest, Winky Wright, and Paul Williams, add Chad Dawson as well. I wish Shane, Vernon, Winky, Paul, Chad Dawson, Andre Dirrell, and Andre Ward would realize playing the "good boy" won't do anything for their pockets and it won't do anything for their career. The days of SRL are over, the only way a black fighter will get any air time, press, and career advantage is to be an arrogant *******, atleast that way the media will cover them and want to push their fights in the hope they get beat into their "proper" place.

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                      #80
                      [QUOTE=shadeyfizzle;7282870]DLH-floyd =2.4million buys
                      hatton-floyd = 1 million buys

                      Pac-dlh = 1.25 million buys

                      hatton- pac = 800k buys.


                      With Hatton especially the numbers difference is virtually indistinguishable.

                      I don't know what kind of math you're doing but those numbers are not "indistinguishible". Mayweather-DLH sold over a million more than Pacquiao-Delahoya. And Mayweather-Hatton sold more than 200,000 more. That's a lot of homes.This is as ****** as your argument that Mayweather has no "fanbase".

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