(VIDEO) - Brian Kenny, Teddy Atlas & BJ Flores Side With Mayweather

[thatnickuh]

Contradicting himself? Hes not giving his opinion. Hes being objective and trying to show perspective from, get this, both sides.

Mayweather has his side.

Pac has his side.

Ever heard the expression there are 2 sides to every story? Ever heard of mediation? Ever heard of compromise?

He gave his opinion on the issue last week. Last week he said that Pacquiao should've just taken the tests if he had nothing to hide. He talked about not understanding why somebody would turn down all that money because he didnt want to give blood. He was supposedly speaking for the "everyday man". Where were you? In this clip, he's completely switched up and is trying to play both sides of the fence by blaming both guys for the fight not being made. He contradicts himself by accusing Mayweather of using the request for random testing to get out of the fight, when last week he went on and on about how random testing was the best way to make sure that a fighter is clean. Being objective doesn't mean playing both sides of the fence. Being objective means making decisons or forming opinions based on facts, and not personal feelings. This has nothing to do with Mayweather or Pacquiao's side, this is about Atlas taking a different stance than he took last week.

Im not being an internet tough guy, im saying if you cant comprehend the above statement then you are, actually, a ******.

You aren't any kind of tough guy, you're a insecure nerd who has trouble dealing with people who don't agree with your narrowminded simple-simon opinions. Good luck with that low self esteem.

[Xcusemymood]

He gave his opinion on the issue last week. Last week he said that Pacquiao should've just taken the tests if he had nothing to hide. He talked about not understanding why somebody would turn down all that money because he didnt want to give blood. He was supposedly speaking for the "everyday man". Where were you? In this clip, he's completely switched up and is trying to play both sides of the fence by blaming both guys for the fight not being made. He contradicts himself by accusing Mayweather of using the request for random testing to get out of the fight, when last week he went on and on about how random testing was the best way to make sure that a fighter is clean. Being objective doesn't mean playing both sides of the fence. Being objective means making decisons or forming opinions based on facts, and not personal feelings. This has nothing to do with Mayweather or Pacquiao's side, this is about Atlas taking a different stance than he took last week.

Yes I watched last week and I agreed with what he said last week, and I agree with what he said this week.

Last week he said Pac looks bad for not taking the tests. He does.

This week he said(pay attention to the part in quotation marks) "Im going to play devils advocate for a minute..."then went on to provide both sides of the story.

The fact of the matter is its both guys fault the fight didnt get made. Both sides are going to point fingers and they both have every right to. You can have an opinion one way or the other, but the end result is the same. Both killed the fight.

I dont get how you are missing this....


You aren't any kind of tough guy, you're a insecure nerd who has trouble dealing with people who don't agree with your narrowminded simple-simon opinions. Good luck with that low self esteem.

I never said I was a tough guy, but I know that I am intelligent, and open-minded which is much more than I can say for your posts. Again, if you cant comprehend what Atlas is saying you must be ******ed.

[Modobo3]

I think the thing that frustrates the boxing fans that don't side with PAC, is that there is absolutely no questioning of ANYTHING that PAC says or does???

I mean he HAS straight up of lied and came up with weird reasons for things and the vast majority of PAC fans won't acknowledge any of it...Let alone call him out...

It's like he can say what he wants and fight whomever he wants and they won't question him and act like he's facing Mt. Everest everytime out.

...and on top of the PAC fans...PBF is faced with a lot of bitter Cotto fans- the ones who think he ducked him, Hatton and JMM fans whom PBF beat, not to mention the lingering Mosely fans who still think he ducked him...In short, PBF doesn't have a shortage of detractors and they are taking this opportunity to pile on because they don't have a dog in the fight and use this as an opportunity to get some licks in because their guy failed to do so.

but on the other side of the coin PBF hasn't done the best job of endearing himself to fight fans...He graciously took on the bad guy role and the PPV sales went throught the roof. So he has to look in the mirror and know he played a major part in how he's perceived.

I've gone back to the beginning of this promotion and I haven't found one interview where PBF was disrepectful, lied or accused PAC of ANYTHING...I've heard the one interview after the mediator tried to step in, where he said he wanted to whip Mannys ass but that really wasn't that bad -was it??? The comments that are primarily held over Floyds head were made by his dad and Mags before the negotiations for this fight ever began...

Finally, the one thing I can't get over is EVERYONE thought the 14 days WAS fair...and even after Arum lied and said it wasn't on the table until they walked away from the mediation - only to find out that it was...Pac fans no longer cared that they thought it was fair and got right back behind him without any problem??? Then went right back to the argument that PBF be disrespected by the very question of PEDS...How dare anyone ask me to take tests that prove you're clean??? As if Manny is above being asked???He followed up with lies and other BS that the majority of people just believed or simply refused to even question!

Is he the messiah...O'Yeah he had a conversation with him...are you kidding me...He spoke to the Lord??? REALLY, REALLY COME ON...YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE A MAN WHO SAYS HE HAD A PERSONAL CONVERSATION WITH THE LORD...

In closing...I LOVE boxing enjoy watching PAC, I'll call out PBF for anything other than a competitive opponent and will be sitting front and center in Dallas watching PAC, an ENTERTAINING BOXER, NO MORE, NO LESS.

Enjoy your kool-aide ARUM thanks you!


PBF asked for some tests that have been asked for in the

[thatnickuh]

Yes I watched last week and I agreed with what he said last week, and I agree with what he said this week.

Last week he said Pac looks bad for not taking the tests. He does.

This week he said(pay attention to the part in quotation marks) "Im going to play devils advocate for a minute..."then went on to provide both sides of the story.

Atlas wasn't giving both sides of the story, he was talking out of both sides of his mouth. This clip was about him giving his opinion on who's to blame for the fight not being made. We don't need Atlas to speak on the behalf of Pacquiao or Mayweather, they(or their team) can speak for themselves and give their sides of the story. One of the first things that Atlas said in this clip is, "I would say that both fighters evenly are to blame(for the fight not being made)". That's the stance that he took in this clip, and it completely contradicts the stance that he took last week when he basically called Pacquiao out for walking away from the fight because of blood testing. That's the point that seems to fly over your head. He didn't mention that he was playing devil's advocate until he was already a minute into that mumbo jumbo.

The fact of the matter is its both guys fault the fight didnt get made. Both sides are going to point fingers and they both have every right to. You can have an opinion one way or the other, but the end result is the same. Both killed the fight. I dont get how you are missing this....

This is not the fact of the matter, this is your opinion of the matter. I'm starting to see that a lot of you don't know the difference between an opinion and a fact. My opinion is that Pacquiao is the reason that the fight didn't get made, and the case supporting that opinion is damn strong. I don't feel like typing it all out right now, but there are several youtube clips and news articles laying the case out. Here's one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ejfm...eature=related
Most if not everything said in that video seems like common sense to me, and any objective person would draw similar conclusions. Maybe you just don't have common sense and are incapable of being objective?

I never said I was a tough guy, but I know that I am intelligent, and open-minded which is much more than I can say for your posts. Again, if you cant comprehend what Atlas is saying you must be ******ed.

Agreeing and comprehending are two completely different things. You obviously aren't that intelligent my man. I completely comprehend what Atlas is saying, I simply don't agree with what he is saying in this latest clip. Why is it so hard for you to get that through your thick head? I don't agree that Mayweather deserves to be blamed for the fight not happening, I've made the case plenty of times on this site and I've just now posted a video clip laying the case out. What do you have to counter the case layed out in that Bruce Blitz's clip? That Mayweather only requested the testing because he was loking for a way out of the fight? That argument is beyond pathetic. If Mayweather was just looking for a way to duck the fight, then why didn't he simply refuse one of Pacquiao's demands? Why didn't he use the ten million dollar weight penalty stipulation to "get out of the fight"? Common sense my man, you don't seem to have it.

[Xcusemymood]

Atlas wasn't giving both sides of the story, he was talking out of both sides of his mouth. This clip was about him giving his opinion on who's to blame for the fight not being made. We don't need Atlas to speak on the behalf of Pacquiao or Mayweather, they(or their team) can speak for themselves and give their sides of the story. One of the first things that Atlas said in this clip is, "I would say that both fighters evenly are to blame(for the fight not being made)". That's the stance that he took in this clip, and it completely contradicts the stance that he took last week when he basically called Pacquiao out for walking away from the fight because of blood testing. That's the point that seems to fly over your head. He didn't mention that he was playing devil's advocate until he was already a minute into that mumbo jumbo.

If you want to interpret it that way it just shows your ignorance.

The first thing Teddy said last week was "Well you could spin this in 1000 different directions, and if you ask the blue collar worker they are going to say, why would you walk away from 30 million just to take a blood test."

He was saying from the regular person who has no idea whats going on in the backgrounds perspective Pac will look guilty.

I agree.

Then he goes on to say "In no way am I saying that I think Pac is dirty, and in no way am I saying that all the blame goes away from Mayweather in not making this fight. All im saying is the common man has the right to think that..."

I really think you need to go back and watch it because your observation is ****ed up homie. Last week Atlas even pointed out that all the blame doesnt land on Manny. He never said, "I believe it is completely Mannys fault" as you seem to think. There is nothing wrong with calling Pac dumb for not taking the tests. **** I agree its ****ing dumb.

But even a idiot can see that Atlas never himself placed all the blame on Pac. So again, you must be ******ed.

This is not the fact of the matter, this is your opinion of the matter. I'm starting to see that a lot of you don't know the difference between an opinion and a fact. My opinion is that Pacquiao is the reason that the fight didn't get made, and the case supporting that opinion is damn strong. I don't feel like typing it all out right now, but there are several youtube clips and news articles laying the case out. Here's one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ejfm...eature=related
Most if not everything said in that video seems like common sense to me, and any objective person would draw similar conclusions. Maybe you just don't have common sense and are incapable of being objective?

In all honesty, this has nothing to do with the thread. I am talking about Atlas and what he said and now you are running on about why the fight wasnt made.

I dont care your opinion as to why the fight wasnt made because I can see you are only on Mayweathers side. The funny thing is I am more on Mayweathers side and I think Pac should take the tests, but I am objective enough to see that Manny has a side as well and both of them together arent letting it happen. Apparently this is something you cannot do.

Agreeing and comprehending are two completely different things. You obviously aren't that intelligent my man. I completely comprehend what Atlas is saying, I simply don't agree with what he is saying in this latest clip. Why is it so hard for you to get that through your thick head? I don't agree that Mayweather deserves to be blamed for the fight not happening, I've made the case plenty of times on this site and I've just now posted a video clip laying the case out. What do you have to counter the case layed out in that Bruce Blitz's clip? That Mayweather only requested the testing because he was loking for a way out of the fight? That argument is beyond pathetic. If Mayweather was just looking for a way to duck the fight, then why didn't he simply refuse one of Pacquiao's demands? Why didn't he use the ten million dollar weight penalty stipulation to "get out of the fight"? Common sense my man, you don't seem to have it.

Haha you are trying to argue a guy who has been on here for weeks saying Manny should take the tests so try again. I never said Mayweather wanted out of the fight. I know he wants it. I know Manny wants the fight.

Floyd has the right to ask for additional testing, Manny has the right to refuse it.

Them not being able to agree killed the fight.

Atlas never picked sides. He showed the fighters perspectives and how they may be percieved by the general public.

Bottom Line.

Its obvious that you think Pac is on PEDs so your view is skewed from the start.

[Hijo de Dios]

I think the thing that frustrates the boxing fans that don't side with PAC, is that there is absolutely no questioning of ANYTHING that PAC says or does???

I mean he HAS straight up of lied and came up with weird reasons for things and the vast majority of PAC fans won't acknowledge any of it...Let alone call him out...

It's like he can say what he wants and fight whomever he wants and they won't question him and act like he's facing Mt. Everest everytime out.

PacROID"s fans (hemo-ROIDS), cling to Pac's asscrack so tightly that it is amazing that Pac can even walk around.

Anything Pac says is gospel with the hemo-Roids.