If Floyd turned down Manny, I think

[Syf]

1. 154lbs pac could counter that with 140 and they both would be at 147 right now which is the "AGREED TERM" on both sides. Its more of an advantage for floyd being the bigger guy

2. it takes two to make that agreement on the purse split

3. 10m per lb over 147 that happens because of floyd cheating on jmm. How about pacquiao agreeing to fight when floyd is over 147- i bet you wont credit him on that,

i dont know i even bother to agrue with u, you my friend is a certified hater

Floyd, historically, has made more money than Pac. He had the option to try to change the purse split in his favor. lets just say, that 50/50 is a bigger concession from Floyd, than it is from Pac, all things considered.

10 million per lb? you damn skippy Pac would agree. I'm supposed to be impressed with that? lol


And me, a hater? You are barking up the wrong tree with that. I am disappointed as a fan, yes. But those are two different things. You might notice I picked Pac over Cotto.. I keep that in my sig for just these kinds of accusations.

I'm not a hater..I'm just not a blind fool either.

[Syf]

As far as i know they were both free to choose whatever glove brands they wanted, but dont quote me on that.

I just wanted to point out on your 1st post making it seem like floyd is making all kinds of conessions when in fact glove size is standard depending on weight.

all fights 154lbs and up use 10oz gloves
all fights 147lbs and below use 8oz gloves.

it could very well be.. I thought brand was in there but not crystal on that.

and weight, I'll give you as a grey area. Pac wanted to low ball weight, so Floyd naturally high balled it, and they met in the middle at 147.

But that still leaves purse split, and 10 mill per lb, even if you've managed to discount the other things.

[Sweet Jesus]

Floyd, historically, has made more money than Pac. He had the option to try to change the purse split in his favor. lets just say, that 50/50 is a bigger concession from Floyd, than it is from Pac, all things considered.

10 million per lb? you damn skippy Pac would agree. I'm supposed to be impressed with that? lol


And me, a hater? You are barking up the wrong tree with that. I am disappointed as a fan, yes. But those are two different things. You might notice I picked Pac over Cotto.. I keep that in my sig for just these kinds of accusations.

I'm not a hater..I'm just not a blind fool either.

Bro, you don't have to prove that Pac ducked Floyd. Hell, even 25% of *******s admit Pac ducked Floyd.

The beauty of boxing is that in 6 months we can start up the hype machine again.

[Pretty Boy Greg]

Bro, you don't have to prove that Pac ducked Floyd. Hell, even 25% of *******s admit Pac ducked Floyd.

The beauty of boxing is that in 6 months we can start up the hype machine again.

i really hope the cintron fight gets signed this week and its on march 13th... how cool would be to have two ppvs go head to head.... i honestly would buy both and dvr the pac fight.... u could have one hell of a party that night!!!

[iHateThePacMan]

Floyd, historically, has made more money than Pac. He had the option to try to change the purse split in his favor. lets just say, that 50/50 is a bigger concession from Floyd, than it is from Pac, all things considered.

10 million per lb? you damn skippy Pac would agree. I'm supposed to be impressed with that? lol


And me, a hater? You are barking up the wrong tree with that. I am disappointed as a fan, yes. But those are two different things. You might notice I picked Pac over Cotto.. I keep that in my sig for just these kinds of accusations.

I'm not a hater..I'm just not a blind fool either.

historically but now there's a demand for pac. and both arum and schafer agreed that they will cut down the chat and agree to 50-50

10m per lb and whose fault is that during the jmm match. they are lucky enough that pacquiao wouldnt back out from the fight thats just an insurance that he will not cheat again

but what about pac he is the naturally the smaller guy agreeing to 147. floyds been fight at ww more than pac ever did. so whose at the disadvantage?

just look at your past post if you still don't believe your a hater

denying everything its redicolous even i can tell and im not a big fan of pac

[Syf]

Bro, you don't have to prove that Pac ducked Floyd. Hell, even 25% of *******s admit Pac ducked Floyd.

The beauty of boxing is that in 6 months we can start up the hype machine again.

thanks, but I don't know if he ducked him, man. Its certainly possible. He either: (from best case scenario to worst) is over proud, ducked Floyd, or is on Steroids.

One of the three

historically but now there's a demand for pac. and both arum and schafer agreed that they will cut down the chat and agree to 50-50

10m per lb and whose fault is that during the jmm match. they are lucky enough that pacquiao wouldnt back out from the fight thats just an insurance that he will not cheat again

but what about pac he is the naturally the smaller guy agreeing to 147. floyds been fight at ww more than pac ever did. so whose at the disadvantage?

just look at your past post if you still don't believe your a hater

denying everything its redicolous even i can tell and im not a big fan of pac

Shaefer had to get the OK from Floyd for that purse split though. At some point, Floyd Mayweather agreed to it. A big step from Floyd, knowing him.

JMM had every opportunity to cancel that fight or demand Mayweather lose more weight and weigh in again. I blame JMM more for his foolish chasing of Pac 140+ than anything. Instead of canceling the fight, what did JMM do? He caved and they rewrote the contract on the spot.

Pac being a small fighter is a myth. Its what's wrecked many people he's faced. This belief that they can just overpower him. And yet here you are, propagating that myth

Let's compare post histories... Better yet, lets compare names. You are clearly infatuated with Pac in some way. Love hate relationship perhaps. Who knows.

[[ DUBBZZ ]]

And yet my question remains unanswered. Again, someone brings up the fact that he "refused" Floyd's demands for OSDT. This answer can easily be re-phrased to "Manny didn't do what Floyd wanted him to do, so therefore, Manny is ducking." Its a simple yes or no answer, man: "would we have a fight if he hadn't asked for this test"? The way I see it: Floyd asked for the test, Manny said I don't think I HAVE to do it but lets compromise. Floyd comes out with a press release saying, "Manny is refusing drug tests, he must have something to hide," and the rest is history. I understand what you're saying, and yes, Pac's side ****ed up alot. But my point was what started this mess. The answer to this is simple, just say it.

[Syf]

And yet my question remains unanswered. Again, someone brings up the fact that he "refused" Floyd's demands for OSDT. This answer can easily be re-phrased to "Manny didn't do what Floyd wanted him to do, so therefore, Manny is ducking." Its a simple yes or no answer, man: "would we have a fight if he hadn't asked for this test"? The way I see it: Floyd asked for the test, Manny said I don't think I HAVE to do it but lets compromise. Floyd comes out with a press release saying, "Manny is refusing drug tests, he must have something to hide," and the rest is history. I understand what you're saying, and yes, Pac's side ****ed up alot. But my point was what started this mess. The answer to this is simple, just say it.

Bottom line:



I expected more character-wise from Manny than from Floyd. Your argument puts them both on the same level, which sadly, turned out to be appropriate.

[shadeyfizzle]

Bottom line:



I expected more character-wise from Manny than from Floyd. Your argument puts them both on the same level, which sadly, turned out to be appropriate.

You have yet to answer the question. Would the fight be signed, sealed and delivered if Floyd never asked for never before done testing???

[Syf]

You have yet to answer the question. Would the fight be signed, sealed and delivered if Floyd never asked for never before done testing???

possibly.

But this point is..well pointless. Because the fight would be signed, sealed, and delivered if Manny had agreed to some simple tests.

As I said, this argument of yours puts them both at an even keel. The one that claims to fight only for the fans, and the one that doesn't give a fuck about the fans..

are morally even? Interesting.