If Floyd turned down Manny, I think

[shadeyfizzle]

possibly.

But this point is..well pointless. Because the fight would be signed, sealed, and delivered if Manny had agreed to some simple tests.

As I said, this argument of yours puts them both at an even keel. The one that claims to fight only for the fans, and the one that doesn't give a fuck about the fans..

are morally even? Interesting.

why wouldnt they be morally even??? they're both human.

[Pretty Boy Greg]

possibly.

But this point is..well pointless. Because the fight would be signed, sealed, and delivered if Manny had agreed to some simple tests.

As I said, this argument of yours puts them both at an even keel. The one that claims to fight only for the fans, and the one that doesn't give a fuck about the fans..

are morally even? Interesting.

well ill tell u one thing, if im a fighter and I think for the slighest second my opponent might be doping, im not getting in the ring with him.... plain and simple... this isnt a basketball or baseball game... this is hand to hand combat which damages fighters health and future or even takes their lives... its a simple fucccking blood test!!!! i honestly cant see how any of you overlook that your hero looks like a user in the eyes of millions now over a ****** azz blood test... blows my god damn mind

[Syf]

why wouldnt they be morally even??? they're both human.

Because Pac claims righteousness that Floyd does not. Pac even said that he had a visitation from an angel, or God, or whatever, and was told his arm would be divinely powered as long as he stayed worthy of it.

This places a higher burden on his morality than Mayweather's wouldn't you say?

[Carpe Diem]

Because Pac claims righteousness that Floyd does not. Pac even said that he had a visitation from an angel, or God, or whatever, and was told his arm would be divinely powered as long as he stayed worthy of it.

This places a higher burden on his morality than Mayweather's wouldn't you say?

BS. This is the same guy who cheated on his wife, it's not that hard for most boxing fans to assumed he's hiding something even if there are no proof. The guy is not as innocent as most of his fans thinks he is.

[Pretty Boy Greg]

BS. This is the same guy who cheated on his wife, it's not that hard for most boxing fans to assumed he's hiding something even if there are no proof. The guy is not as innocent as most of his fans thinks he is.

amen!!! green k

[Syf]

well ill tell u one thing, if im a fighter and I think for the slighest second my opponent might be doping, im not getting in the ring with him.... plain and simple... this isnt a basketball or baseball game... this is hand to hand combat which damages fighters health and future or even takes their lives... its a simple fucccking blood test!!!! i honestly cant see how any of you overlook that your hero looks like a user in the eyes of millions now over a ****** azz blood test... blows my god damn mind

Yeah.. I feel the same way. Pac should have just cleared his name even if unfairly accused. I don't understand why he didn't.

Anyone at the pinnacle of any sport is gonna catch alot of accusations like that. Look at baseball with Albert Pujols. They were constantly accusing him of juicing so one day he just said, well test me right now, and they did and he was clean. Manny should just handle them in stride like Pujols and prove them wrong, not all this MESS. It just makes him look guilty I agree

[baracuda]

BS. This is the same guy who cheated on his wife, it's not that hard for most boxing fans to assumed he's hiding something even if there are no proof. The guy is not as innocent as most of his fans thinks he is.

pac cheating on his wife = guilty(there is proof)

pac doping= not guilty(no proof)

[baracuda]

amen!!! green k

floyd being a ****= guilty(he likes chestrubs from ellerbie)...

[shadeyfizzle]

Because Pac claims righteousness that Floyd does not. Pac even said that he had a visitation from an angel, or God, or whatever, and was told his arm would be divinely powered as long as he stayed worthy of it.

This places a higher burden on his morality than Mayweather's wouldn't you say?

It doesnt make him inhuman. it doesnt make him infallible or mistake free.

The same way that Floyd may be blessed with all the talent in the world....doesnt make him any less of a douche.

Manny pacquiao may believe he's on whatever type of quest from god he may believe.....doesnt make him a superhero.

It's those flaws in both guys that make them endearing to their fans.....the same way spiderman and batman are more endearing to comic fans because of their human flaws than a superman.

[Syf]

BS. This is the same guy who cheated on his wife, it's not that hard for most boxing fans to assumed he's hiding something even if there are no proof. The guy is not as innocent as most of his fans thinks he is.

which is my underlying point.

Floyd appears to be the more honest of the two right now, which blows my ****in mind. At least he is up front about his nature, whereas Manny still tries to play the aggrieved and wronged saint angle to the hilt..

talk about beating a dead horse