Pac is top five ATG - Emmanuel Steward

[Syf]

Ali
SRR
Tyson
SRL
Joe Louis


there... just five right off the top that are higher ATG than Manny. This is getting out of hand. I know people's memories are short and selective, but you do the whole sport of boxing a dishonor by forgetting its greats, and prematurely raising the now, over the then.

[Pacdbest]

pac at worst should be top 5 atg. the only boxer to win 7 championship belt in a 7 weight class and the only boxer to get a 4 lineal belt.

He's amazing!!! Nobody was ever as dominating as he went up in weight classes. Not only that he won in those 7 wt classes but the way he beats up his top opponents at those weight classes. Sasakul's 1st Ko loss, Ledwaba's dominating KO, MAB & EM annihilation, Diaz beatdown, Hatton's 1 punch KO of the year, DLH & Cotto mugging & out pointing a master boxer JMM.

[Ballllin]

WOW

just........wow

[Syf]

He's amazing!!!

yes, he's amazing.


but he's not top 5 yet.


Learn a bit about the sport please.

[Evil Abed]

Top 40 ATG is more like it.

His current run is one of the best of all-time.

Thats not an insult. Boxing has such a large stable of great fighters to even be considered in the top 100 is incredible.

Though Manny stewards opinon dosen't mean much to me.

How's the Great Andy Lee doing?

[Easy-E]

That statement would work if it wasn't Emmanuel Steward we are talking about.

Steward knows boxing, but he is also biased and known to say ****** ****.
Like that Andy Lee will be on of the great middleweight champions of all time.

[Easy-E]

I won't say any number where I feel Manny should belong.
I'll just post some facts, which I know most if not ALL
people here know, but prefer to neglect because of hate
rather than welcome it as fair as possible.....



List of "Fighters of the Decade":

1910s: Sam Langford
1920s: Benny Leonard
1930s: Henry Armstrong
1940s: Sugar Ray Robinson
1950s: Sugar Ray Robinson
1960s: Muhammad Ali
1970s: Roberto Duran
1980s: Ray Leonard
1990s: Roy Jones Jr
2000s: Manny Pacquiao



Multiple Awardee of "Figther of the Year":

Muhhamad Ali - 5
Joe Louis - 4
Manny Pacquiao - 3
Joe Frazier - 3
Evander Holyfield - 3
Sugar Ray Robinson - 2
Ezzard Charles - 2
Rocky Marciano - 2
Gene Tunney - 2
James Toney - 2
Harry Greb - 2
**** Tiger - 2
Ingemar Johansson - 2
Floyd Mayweather - 2
Floyd Patterson - 2
Tommy Loughran - 2



List of Multiple Weight Division Champion:

Manny Pacquiao - 7
Oscar Dela Hoya - 6
Thomas Hearns - 5
Sugar Ray Leonard - 5
Floyd Mayweather - 5
Pernell Whitaker - 4
Roberto Duran - 4
Roy Jones Jr. - 4
Leo Gomez - 4

That is not accurate.
Historically, Manny has only won titles in five weight divisions (still an amazing feat). The Ring magazine title, which was created in 2002, is where Manny won hs "titles" at 126 and 140. However, it is not fair or logical to give use this seven year old "title" that is awarded by a magazine when looking back and comparing Manny to other fighters in the past, who often won titles from sanctioning bodies of when there was only one title per weight division.

[TheGreatA]

Steward knows boxing, but he is also biased and known to say ****** ****.
Like that Andy Lee will be on of the great middleweight champions of all time.

Agreed, this is what I've been trying to say here. No one can say that Steward doesn't know his boxing though.

[FightFreak]

Agreed, this is what I've been trying to say here. No one can say that Steward doesn't know his boxing though.

He is biased sometimes, but when he is, he's biased for HIS GUYS. He hasn't trained Pac, and has even expressed a desire to train Cotto for their fight.

Fact is, Steward has always played devil's advocate when he covers Pac's fights. Given that, and the given that he trained legends like Chavez, Hearns, Tyson, Lewis, etc. and having analyzed other greats from front row, him saying that Pac is one of the 5 greatest fighters of all time is significant.

Then again, no one is saying that his word is canon.