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  • M.I.C.
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    #71
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Pac gets more credit for Oscar cuz he was the underdog bro... It was considered a mismatch in Oscar favor going in... A lot of people didn't give Oscar a chance of beating Floyd...

    And, Pac gets more credit for Hatton cuz he beat Hatton at his weight...

    Pac also gets more credit for both cuz of the way he won... Is not really the win but is how he did...

    Also Floyd would of gotten credit for Cotto... Like I said Cotto was a top 3 WW arguably #1... Floyd would of gotten credit... He definitely would of gotten more credit for Cotto than all his other opponents in the last 6yrs... Hell I give credit to Floyd if he fought and beat Cintron... That whole he does not get credit is bull**** everybody just wants to see him fight top fighters...
    Oscar, Hatton, and Marquez are top fighters and Floyd fought them. If you want to be technical I was more impressed with Floyd's win over Hatton that I was with Pac's. To me completely neutralizing your opponents offense then taking him out is a complete victory. A 1-2 round blowout could mean lucky punch or bad mistake. And yes Floyd fought a Healthy Oscar and Manny fought a Zombie, does anyone deny that? Can anyone deny that?

    Marquez wanted a challenge and Floyd obliged. Marquez gives Pac all he can handle at any weight, Marquez is out of his league vs Floyd at any weight.

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      #72
      Originally posted by daggum
      actually floyd did create him. he built up the ppv as some great challenge against the best welterweight even though he was clearly not the best but a flash in the pan who had 1 good win then faded into obscurity right where he came from.

      floyd ducked pac get it straight. he made ridiculous demands and never wanted the fight. even when they tried to compromise he gave no ground and only after negotiations were over said 14 days was ok like a little *****. he tried to ruin pacs reputation cause he is so jealous pac got more ppv's then him.

      you say every fight for floyd is easy thats probably cause you are used to floyd beating tomato cans or you just forget that he almost lost to oscar and got knocked down by judah.
      Actually Baldy had 2 good wins over Judah and Gatti, which are the same two guys Floyd had recently made his PPV career on. The fact that Baldy beat both of them was seen as a threat to Floyd. Its no different from Pac beating Oscar and Hatton, that is a direct challenge to Mayweather and as we all know he was willing to step up to the plate and make that fight happen. If you about to get into the blood test, then YES I blame Pac, he should of took the 14 day cutoff.

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        #73
        Originally posted by M.I.C.
        Oscar, Hatton, and Marquez are top fighters and Floyd fought them. If you want to be technical I was more impressed with Floyd's win over Hatton that I was with Pac's. To me completely neutralizing your opponents offense then taking him out is a complete victory. A 1-2 round blowout could mean lucky punch or bad mistake. And yes Floyd fought a Healthy Oscar and Manny fought a Zombie, does anyone deny that? Can anyone deny that?

        Marquez wanted a challenge and Floyd obliged. Marquez gives Pac all he can handle at any weight, Marquez is out of his league vs Floyd at any weight.
        mosley wanted a challenge and floyd..........................RAN! margarito wanted a challenge and floyd................RAN! strange how he accepts the challenge of smaller fighters.

        you really think pac wouldn't destroy the fat marquez that floyd fought? clownboy!

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          #74
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          So Pac has no chance? Then why would Floyd fight him? He will be cherrypicking? Why would Floyd fight Pac and not take on somebody who has a chance on beating him...

          And, honestly can you give fighter A credit for beating fighter B even though fighter B had no chance in beating fighter A?
          For those close to the Mayweather camp it is cherrypicking, a low risk high reward fight. Pac cant adjust to Floyd, he's never fought anyone like Mayweather in his life.

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            #75
            Originally posted by M.I.C.
            Actually Baldy had 2 good wins over Judah and Gatti, which are the same two guys Floyd had recently made his PPV career on. The fact that Baldy beat both of them was seen as a threat to Floyd. Its no different from Pac beating Oscar and Hatton, that is a direct challenge to Mayweather and as we all know he was willing to step up to the plate and make that fight happen. If you about to get into the blood test, then YES I blame Pac, he should of took the 14 day cutoff.
            gatti at welterweight is a good win? what planet are you living on? the fact floyd made his career fighting judah and gatti says it all doesnt it? baldomir and floyd have the same resume hahahahahahahahaha try to recover from that one.

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              #76
              Originally posted by daggum
              mosley wanted a challenge and floyd..........................RAN! margarito wanted a challenge and floyd................RAN! strange how he accepts the challenge of smaller fighters.

              you really think pac wouldn't destroy the fat marquez that floyd fought? clownboy!


              No I dont think Pac would destory a 147 lb Marquez simply because Pac makes mistakes Marquez can capitalize on. Floyd does not make mistakes, thats where Marquez had his biggest problem.

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                #77
                Originally posted by daggum
                gatti at welterweight is a good win? what planet are you living on? the fact floyd made his career fighting judah and gatti says it all doesnt it? baldomir and floyd have the same resume hahahahahahahahaha try to recover from that one.
                You only proving that you in fact downgrade any opponent that Floyd fights. They are all that until they fight Floyd. After all, Marquez went from #2 P4P in the world to a fat butterball in your estimation.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by M.I.C.
                  Oscar, Hatton, and Marquez are top fighters and Floyd fought them. If you want to be technical I was more impressed with Floyd's win over Hatton that I was with Pac's. To me completely neutralizing your opponents offense then taking him out is a complete victory. A 1-2 round blowout could mean lucky punch or bad mistake. And yes Floyd fought a Healthy Oscar and Manny fought a Zombie, does anyone deny that? Can anyone deny that?

                  Marquez wanted a challenge and Floyd obliged. Marquez gives Pac all he can handle at any weight, Marquez is out of his league vs Floyd at any weight.
                  So you was saying Pac was lucky against Hatton? You saying that was not straight domination? What could of Hatton done differently? What would change if they fight again?

                  You can say Oscar was healthy against Floyd but he was still old and a part time fighter/full time promoter... Does anyone deny that? Can anyone deny that? And, yes Pac fought an old Oscar as well...

                  JMM would give Pac all he can handle at any weight? Yes cuz JMM, can carry his weight so well that Diaz and an old Casamayor gave JMM all he could handle...

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by M.I.C.
                    You only proving that you in fact downgrade any opponent that Floyd fights. They are all that until they fight Floyd. After all, Marquez went from #2 P4P in the world to a fat butterball in your estimation.
                    how could i ever downgrade the great gatti, judah and baldomir. you somehow think those guys are on the same level as mosley, cotto, and pac. like i said what planet are you on? if you need evidence on how much better those guys are just look how cotto beat the ever loving **** out of judah right after mayweather struggled with him. no wonder he never fought cotto. just like he never fought pac after he destroyed hatton and oscar.

                    and you are exactly right marquez went from p4p number 2 to a fat butterball. he's not a welterweight.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by M.I.C.
                      For those close to the Mayweather camp it is cherrypicking, a low risk high reward fight. Pac cant adjust to Floyd, he's never fought anyone like Mayweather in his life.
                      Well that works both ways cuz Floyd never fought anyone like Pac before in his life... If I am wrong who?

                      But, OK is cherry picking and Pac has zero... If Floyd fights Pac and wins you can not give Floyd any credit for that win... since he fought some who had zero chance of winning...

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