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Originally posted by xAUGUSTUSx View PostJust because GBP is shooting for Mosley vs Mayweather in June it does'nt mean that Floyd is.
This Flip phenomina on the other hand, loves to fight....He also, is reported to enjoy 4 or 5 lobsters, and 3 to 5 pounds of koby beef, on the morning of the weigh-in........
my kinda fighter!!!!
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Anything to do with pacquiao or mayweather is disapointing and annoying unless they fight eachother...
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Originally posted by solly6 View PostPac's camp and roach respect mayweather as a fighter as they should. He is a very tough opponent for anyone. Which camp had the excuses.
a) mayweather's camp immediately turned down the fight being anywhere but las vegas. it could have been the biggest event of the year had it been in cowboys stadium infront of 60k plus and affordable for a lot of fight fans. NOPE FLOYD CAN'T FIGHT OUTSIDE OF VEGAS WHERE THE XYLOCAINE HE USES IS ILLEGAL.
b) 147 was agreed as was 8oz which are both the standard for true welters.
c) the penalty for weight was issued because floyd JUST FOUGHT IN A CATCH WEIGHT AGAINST A LIGHTWEIGHT WHERE HE PURPOSELY MISSED WEIGHT BY 2 POUNDS.
everything is looking good for the fight to go on and THEN
d) based on mayweather camp accusations with no proof whatsoever that pac uses enhancers they want random blood tests up until the fight. This type of testing HAS NEVER BEEN USED FOR ANY FIGHT AND THE NEVADA STATE COMMISSION DOES NOT USE IT.
e) Pac agrees to 3 TESTS UP TO 24 DAYS RANDOM WITH 1 BEING IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FIGHT IN THE DRESSING ROOM AND UNLIMITED URINE TESTING.
PACS CAMP SHOULD HAVE ACCUSED GAYWEATHER OF HIS XYLOCAINE WHICH ACTUALLY HAS SOME PROOF AND SAID WE WANT THE FIGHT IN TEXAS WHERE IT WILL GENERATE A LOT MORE MONEY. FLOYD WOULD HAVE **** HIMSELF.
f) FLOYD IS THE BIGGEST ***** THE SPORT HAS EVER SEEN AND ONE OF THE DUMBEST. GO WATCH ALL HIS INTERVIEWS AND TELL ME OTHERWISE, THERE HILARIOUS. HE CONTRADICTS HIMSELF EVERY INTERVIEW ATLEAST A COUPLE TIMES.
1. Manny agreed to Vegas. It was his preferred city also. So this was never an issue.
2. 147 was agreed upon with 8 oz gloves of fighters choice. Correct me if im wrong but i thik the NSAC standard for glove size in a welter match is 10oz.
3. The NSAC testing procedures are a complete joke as has been oulined by USADA, WADA experts. They are draconian at best and the NSAC has a conflict of interest to not uncover fighters who are cheating.
4. XYLOCAINE is legal in Nevada. That means Manny can use it too or ant other fighter = an even playing field. Do you think Mayweather is the only fighter who uses it in fights in Nevada??????
5. Pac did not agree to random blood testing. Micrea (and other next gen EPO's) and HGH etc can only be detected by random blood testing as asserted by every expert in the field of PED use in sport. Don Caitlin even came out and said 24 days was useless.....ironic given *******s used his testimony on EPO detected in urine as a defense.....yes traditional EPO...but they do a blood panel first and store it to compare results. At this point i will point out Mosley has admitted to EPO use.......did they bother to test his urine for it? Probably not.........
6. Team Pac agreed to 24 days after HBO boss Ross Greenburg called them out on theor 30 day bull****. They rejected an offer of 14 days from camp Mayweather.
6. Floyd will never call out another fighter on record....he has not done so since he was told not to by Al Haymon and his advisers. Just like PAc has been told not to call out fighters by Top Rank. It reduces your bargaining power if the other camp knows you want the fight. floyd called out guys at 130-140 religiously after post fight interviews in the ring.....it got him nowhere.....shot callers like Pac and Floyd do not call opponents out......
Anymore arguments solly?
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Originally posted by AFighter4U View PostThe thing is Mayweather isn't Money cause if he was, he would drop the tests and fight Manny and enjoyed his $$$$ as he supposed to.
Look he ducked Oscar for a rematch which offer him a lot of $$$$$$. Now tell me what was his reasons then.
I think that Mosley will probably be "avoided", because he's too big and too tough!
If berto beats Mosley He'll be much too big and tough too!
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Originally posted by jbpanama View PostThe truth is the pretty one dosen't like to fight!...and with the PacMan he would definetely be in a FIGHT!...
I think that Mosley will probably be "avoided", because he's too big and too tough!
If berto beats Mosley He'll be much too big and tough too!
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Mosley is a handful for any fighter @ 147, but he and Floyd are almost identical in size......Floyd should fight him.......i personally think he will....either in the second half of this year or early 2011....March 13th is prob not feasible given Mosley is fighting on Jan 30......also a win against Berto is not certain
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Originally posted by mstewart View PostI really Like Shane as a Fighter, however That S*it he pulled after Mayweather, Maquez was some DisRespectful mess to Do 2 another Man. If I was Floyd I wouldn't let him make No $$ off Me! Just How(I) feel.
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Originally posted by check hook View Post1. Manny agreed to Vegas. It was his preferred city also. So this was never an issue.
2. 147 was agreed upon with 8 oz gloves of fighters choice. Correct me if im wrong but i thik the NSAC standard for glove size in a welter match is 10oz.
3. The NSAC testing procedures are a complete joke as has been oulined by USADA, WADA experts. They are draconian at best and the NSAC has a conflict of interest to not uncover fighters who are cheating.
4. XYLOCAINE is legal in Nevada. That means Manny can use it too or ant other fighter = an even playing field. Do you think Mayweather is the only fighter who uses it in fights in Nevada??????
5. Pac did not agree to random blood testing. Micrea (and other next gen EPO's) and HGH etc can only be detected by random blood testing as asserted by every expert in the field of PED use in sport. Don Caitlin even came out and said 24 days was useless.....ironic given *******s used his testimony on EPO detected in urine as a defense.....yes traditional EPO...but they do a blood panel first and store it to compare results. At this point i will point out Mosley has admitted to EPO use.......did they bother to test his urine for it? Probably not.........
6. Team Pac agreed to 24 days after HBO boss Ross Greenburg called them out on theor 30 day bull****. They rejected an offer of 14 days from camp Mayweather.
6. Floyd will never call out another fighter on record....he has not done so since he was told not to by Al Haymon and his advisers. Just like PAc has been told not to call out fighters by Top Rank. It reduces your bargaining power if the other camp knows you want the fight. floyd called out guys at 130-140 religiously after post fight interviews in the ring.....it got him nowhere.....shot callers like Pac and Floyd do not call opponents out......
Anymore arguments solly?
the 10oz i think your right on but the best welters have been using 8oz for the big fights. cotto margs, cotto pac, cotto clottey, cotto mosley. and pac's been using them his whole career.
bob arum flew to dallas to meet jones and scaefer stood them up and didn't even give it a chance. it would have been more money for both fighters so i can't agree with you there.
i agree the tests are a joke but that is something everyone should get together on and have changed and not be up to floyd. i hope they change it although it will never be random up until a day before the fight i can gurantee you that. why did this suddenly concern floyd so much now?????? never before has he mentioned anything about it and would he be willing to blood tests in another state????
floyd offered the 14 days after the mediation and arum's statement that the fight is off. it was not offered during the mediation.
Both guys are to blame because of ego's although i can see why pac didn't want to cave in to a guy accusing him of steroids without a shred of proof.
i thought the fight was too soon after the war pac was in with cotto and how easy of a fight mayweather had with a lightweight. didn't think pac needed to be giving up anything until mayweather proves something at welter.
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