How anyone can hate Wiliams is beyond me.

[B u r n e r]

You're delusional. Espinio sucks but he is tough and has a respectable chin. If PW and Pavlik end up trading on the inside like in the Espinio fight (which given both guys is likely) PW doesn't last as long as Espinio did.

He'll trade with Pavlik cuz that is all he knows how to do and when he does he'll be out of there, probably before 6 rounds.

When they fight all my points, bank all that **** and some kind of sig bet, whatever you want man.

All your points fine...whatever you have Ill gladly take.

DEAL.

Mayweather would beat Espinio, Rubio and Lockett.....in the same night. There not good enough to be a WW's sparring partner so dont sell me Espino is tough.

Oktay Urkal is tough..still a **** win...

Pavlik KO Williams in 6 rounds??? Is downright laughable.

[jrosales13]

Potential Pavlik fight and what you think he has to beat him.



stoppage? PW does not hit anyyyyyyyywhere near as hard as Zuniga, Miranda, Taylor or a LHW Hopkins, how you think he can hurt or overwhelm Pavlik baffles me. And the fact that you think he can take Pavlik's right hand also seems unrealistic to me and unfounded.

I actually think Pavlik size and work rate will give Pavlik hell. P-Will is there to be hit his defense is his offense... but, if he can take Williams straight right hand for all 12 rounds then Williams would easily win a decision... Williams is capable to keep the fight in the middle of the ring. And, that is the way you beat Pavlik. You have to stay off the ropes. I don't see P-Will being on the ropes with Pavlik. If you look at Pavlik best KO's against Zertuche, Zuniga, Miranda, and Taylor all happened when they were on the ropes. But, if you look at the Taylor rematch where JT did a pretty good job at staying off the ropes he did much better in that fight. Then you look at what Hopkins did... And, now we don't even know what Pavlik has left after that... As of right now Pavlik has not shown me anything that makes me think he is the same fighter that he was before Hopkins... I don't think he has it anymore. If he can not get a KO over Williams then it will be an easy victory for P-Will as long as he stays off the ropes which P-Will is very capable of doing.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Exactly! It's real easy to be the most avoided fighter when eveyone in your weight class is almost alwas 4-6 in shorter and you almost always have 4-6 in reach advantage.

For every advantage,

there is a counter.

[-EX-]

Well some believe he is overrated...but I don't know how you can flat out dislike him tho...

[tredh]

Pavlik would be the biggest puncher that Williams has ever faced. Not sure he could take to many flush right hands from Pavlik. The good thing for Williams is that Pavlik is a basic 1-2 fighter and if he can't beat a basic 1-2 fighter that would be a shame and speak volumes about his ability.

[jrosales13]

Actually Tyson fought in an era where it wasn't uncommon to see a 5ft 11in HW.

Really in the mid/late 80's what other top HW was under 6ft?

In the mid/late 90's what other top HW was under 6ft? I can only think of Tua in that time... but, who else?

[Mikhnienko]

All your points fine...whatever you have Ill gladly take.

DEAL.

Mayweather would beat Espinio, Rubio and Lockett.....in the same night. There not good enough to be a WW's sparring partner so dont sell me Espino is tough.

Oktay Urkal is tough..still a **** win...

Pavlik KO Williams in 6 rounds??? Is downright laughable.

Part of me actually feels bad because you genuinly seems invested in PW and i know that you'll acually be heartbroken if he loses, especially if he's KO'd.

I don't care if Pavlik wins or loses a fight it's just that there is no way i see PW beating him when looking at both guys.

[keepthemhandsup]

well i don't hate him, i think he gets over hyped, remember when people thought he was jesus pre-mantinez bout?

[B u r n e r]

Part of me actually feels bad because you genuinly seems invested in PW and i know that you'll acually be heartbroken if he loses, especially if he's KO'd.

I don't care if Pavlik wins or loses a fight it's just that there is no way i see PW beating him when looking at both guys.

Hes already lost.

There goes that argument.

Williams is a WARRIOR.

"you win some, you lose some whatever I just wanna fight...."

Paul Williams

You can stand behind Pavliks punk ass all you like. If I was a fan of his Id be pissed...Rubio, Lockett and Espino.

Sturm
Martinez
Williams
Winky

Guys Pavlik needs to fight.

[Xyei]

I think most people hate his rabid fans more than they hate him, as it is so with most fighters.

I have nothing against Paul. I love the fact that he will fight anyone in the upper ranks from 147-160. How can you not like that? I do think he's a bit overrated though. Some of his fans make it seem like he's the greatest ever when he clearly is not. That is to be expected these days, unfortunately. Especially on this site. All it is, is fanboys against fanboys these days.