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  • THE REED
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    #21
    Originally posted by TortillaWarrior
    I'm not sure why people want to see the Bradley fight.

    Hes JR. welterweight.

    Floyd has been a welterweight for 5 years now.

    Let him start fighting actual welterweights. Versus anyone in the top ten is a step in the right direction.

    Seriously, Tim Bradley? Why? Because hes undefeated?

    Time for a welterweight to start fighting welterweights. All of the other welterweights are doing it.
    It's not that he needs to fight a welterweight, but moreso a legitimate challenge.

    I think Bradley IS dangerous. Where he lacks in power he makes up with output, and he makes you fight him. Bradley also doesn't fizzle out, he doesn't get tired... but he stays determined and his punch output only increases. IMO the best way to beat Floyd isn't to be a power puncher and attempt to land your power, but to have a good workrate and simply outwork FLoyd.

    Bradleys youth, agility, athleticism, chin, and most importantly determination is a huge asset in this matchup... on top of the fact he has also never lost either, so he has that confidence in himself.

    I would love a Bradley fight.

    A fighter like Bradley who has the stamina to reach 100+ punches a round.... is dangerous... and for anyone

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      #22
      Originally posted by B u r n e r
      Martinez said he wanted to fight Floyd AND Pacman.

      Neither ONE of them will fight Martinez.
      i actually think martinez could beat both of them mainly cause he is so much taller and is probably just as fast them.

      But not counting mosley or pac to fight floyd next because they are both basically out i think floyd should fight timothy bradley, i really like what bradley is doing in 140 and would have no problem with floyd having him move up to 147 to fight.

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        #23
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss
        It's not that he needs to fight a welterweight, but moreso a legitimate challenge.

        I think Bradley IS dangerous. Where he lacks in power he makes up with output, and he makes you fight him. Bradley also doesn't fizzle out, he doesn't get tired... but he stays determined and his punch output only increases. IMO the best way to beat Floyd isn't to be a power puncher and attempt to land your power, but to have a good workrate and simply outwork FLoyd.

        Bradleys youth, agility, athleticism, chin, and most importantly determination is a huge asset in this matchup... on top of the fact he has also never lost either, so he has that confidence in himself.

        I would love a Bradley fight.

        A fighter like Bradley who has the stamina to reach 100+ punches a round.... is dangerous... and for anyone

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          #24
          Originally posted by Danny Gunz
          i actually think martinez could beat both of them mainly cause he is so much taller and is probably just as fast them.

          But not counting mosley or pac to fight floyd next because they are both basically out i think floyd should fight timothy bradley, i really like what bradley is doing in 140 and would have no problem with floyd having him move up to 147 to fight.
          I would love to see Bradley vs. Mayweather. Bradley wants the fight too.

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            #25
            Originally posted by reedickyaluss
            It's not that he needs to fight a welterweight, but moreso a legitimate challenge.

            I think Bradley IS dangerous. Where he lacks in power he makes up with output, and he makes you fight him. Bradley also doesn't fizzle out, he doesn't get tired... but he stays determined and his punch output only increases. IMO the best way to beat Floyd isn't to be a power puncher and attempt to land your power, but to have a good workrate and simply outwork FLoyd.

            Bradleys youth, agility, athleticism, chin, and most importantly determination is a huge asset in this matchup... on top of the fact he has also never lost either, so he has that confidence in himself.

            I would love a Bradley fight.

            A fighter like Bradley who has the stamina to reach 100+ punches a round.... is dangerous... and for anyone
            Bradley is totally unproven at welterweight. I don't see what he would bring to anyone up there right now. Hes basically the same size as Pac, with considerably less power. As much as I'm a Bradley fan, he'd get ****d by any of the top five and possibly overpowered by the bottom half.


            I just do not see what the fascination with him at welter is right now. Hes still making his bones at 140. There are plenty of good scraps for him where hes at. I'd applaud him for going up to take the challenge, but he really does not belong there right now.

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              #26
              He better not fight Cambell soup. That's all I'm saying.

              If he wants to alienate his fans and make new PW fans and Pac fans go ahead and fight that old bastard.

              But he might as well retire.

              I will wait and see.

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                #27
                Originally posted by TortillaWarrior
                Bradley is totally unproven at welterweight. I don't see what he would bring to anyone up there right now. Hes basically the same size as Pac, with considerably less power. As much as I'm a Bradley fan, he'd get ****d by any of the top five and possibly overpowered by the bottom half.


                I just do not see what the fascination with him at welter is right now. Hes still making his bones at 140. There are plenty of good scraps for him where hes at. I'd applaud him for going up to take the challenge, but he really does not belong there right now.
                Two points I would make on that.

                1. I would think Bradley would come in light around 142-143lbs to retain his natural gifts that he uses at JR WW.

                2. I would argue the comparison in power between Floyd and Kendall Holt. Holt is a huge puncher, who unlike Floyd, doesn't punch at you, but through you. Bradley took his best shot on the chin, went down, got up and proceeded to work over Holt.

                Now Holt is no mayweather, and I realize that. What I like in Bradley is his capability to throw around 100+ punches a round. Bradleys lack in power is almost something I like in him, because he does not rely on it. He does not rely on trying to land that one punch all night to end the fight, but relies on his ability to outwork, and outhustle you.

                On top of his ability to outwork you, he has the stamina to do so throughout 12 rounds. He is a distance fighter. Bradley is built for 12 rounds of highout action. You also aren't just going to box circles around Bradley or out-maneuver him easily. He will be in your face and make you fight every minute of every round. Also, with Bradleys chin, I have confidence that he can take the shots he would receive back.

                He is also one of the most determined active fighters out there right now.

                That is why he is a legitimate challenge.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TortillaWarrior
                  Bradley is totally unproven at welterweight. I don't see what he would bring to anyone up there right now. Hes basically the same size as Pac, with considerably less power. As much as I'm a Bradley fan, he'd get ****d by any of the top five and possibly overpowered by the bottom half.


                  I just do not see what the fascination with him at welter is right now. Hes still making his bones at 140. There are plenty of good scraps for him where hes at. I'd applaud him for going up to take the challenge, but he really does not belong there right now.
                  I agree. Wasn't his biggest win overturned into a no contest? He looks very promising but to say he's ready to move up to WW and face anyone in the top 3 is ludacris at this time. Maybe after 5 or so more fights but for now he's not A/A+ class in my book.

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                    #29
                    I would favor Bradley over Collazo and Cintron.

                    I think he's mentally stronger then both.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                      Two points I would make on that.

                      1. I would think Bradley would come in light around 142-143lbs to retain his natural gifts that he uses at JR WW.

                      2. I would argue the comparison in power between Floyd and Kendall Holt. Holt is a huge puncher, who unlike Floyd, doesn't punch at you, but through you. Bradley took his best shot on the chin, went down, got up and proceeded to work over Holt.

                      Now Holt is no mayweather, and I realize that. What I like in Bradley is his capability to throw around 100+ punches a round. Bradleys lack in power is almost something I like in him, because he does not rely on it. He does not rely on trying to land that one punch all night to end the fight, but relies on his ability to outwork, and outhustle you.

                      On top of his ability to outwork you, he has the stamina to do so throughout 12 rounds. He is a distance fighter. Bradley is built for 12 rounds of highout action. You also aren't just going to box circles around Bradley or out-maneuver him easily. He will be in your face and make you fight every minute of every round. Also, with Bradleys chin, I have confidence that he can take the shots he would receive back.

                      He is also one of the most determined active fighters out there right now.

                      That is why he is a legitimate challenge.

                      Is it just me or does this guy's description sound like Pac minus the power.

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