Al Bernstein: "Floyd and his minions killed the Pacquiao fight."

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    #281
    Originally posted by flour
    nah u didnt respond cus u thought bloodtesting is some miracle all drug detecting test and urine is like a side-kick to it.. thats ur whole stance i gather from the way u said urine cant detect everything and blood is definitely needed.. why cus it can detect everything right? lol.
    anyways cmon now if ur gonna be so vocal about both test why not provide some semblance of logic on why that is..without coming up with some lame weak post like.. well everyone disagrees soo.. so it all nonesense...

    yah thats all u can come up with?

    we see whos telling the truth now and it aint you *****s

    listen *******. you have HGH and PEDs, urine doesnt detect everything so where urine lacks, blood makes up the difference.

    how do you explain shane not being caught, huh?

    next, the important point about OST is it being RANDOM which pac didnt want,

    he wanted three scheduled blood test and unlimited urine.

    **** can be masked in urine but not in blood.

    so, there is a reason why they were ok with unlimited urine but not RANDOM blood. b/c they have something to hide

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    • Alibata
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      #282
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      You did. By raising an example of Floyd having a change of heart at the last second. Do you think he was in the right? If so, why not?

      Second, I don't care what Senior said. I do care about what Pacquiao did.

      And finally, negotiations aren't final until they are final. This is not the issue. The issue is...why was there an issue? And then..why all the lies and contradictions?
      Are you blind.. Do you only see what you want to see? you sure ain't biased, you can't even answer those simple questions.... Why was there an issue? Because some ass wipe crack head got paranoid to begin with. Why was there no issue 40 fights before pacman all of a sudden it is Pac's fault.. hahahaha! lies and contradictions, **** man thats weak, really it is.
      Last edited by Alibata; 04-22-2010, 04:44 PM.

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        #283
        Originally posted by Alibata
        Are you blind.. Do you only see what you want to see? you sure ain't biased, you can't even answer those simple questions.... Why was there an issue? Because some ass wipe got paranoid. Why was there no issue 40 fights before pacman all of a sudden it is Pac's fault.. hahahaha! lies and contradictions, **** man thats weak, really it is.
        All of that is irrelevant.

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        • IMDAZED
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          #284
          Originally posted by Alibata
          Are you blind.. Do you only see what you want to see? you sure ain't biased, you can't even answer those simple questions.... Why was there an issue? Because some ass wipe got paranoid. Why was there no issue 40 fights before pacman all of a sudden it is Pac's fault.. hahahaha! lies and contradictions, **** man thats weak, really it is.
          I answered each one. Try comprehending.

          BTW, I agree with the second bolded

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            #285
            Originally posted by thatnickuh
            All of that is irrelevant.
            irrelevant? It is why you got people like you saying this **** is irrelevant.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #286
              Originally posted by thatnickuh
              All of that is irrelevant.
              I think you meant nonsensical. I mean...what does this even mean:

              Why was there no issue 40 fights before pacman all of a sudden it is Pac's fault

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                #287
                Originally posted by Alibata
                irrelevant? It is why you got people like you saying this **** is irrelevant.
                The reasons why Mayweather requested the stricter testing to fight Pacquiao are irrelevant. You don't have to feel as though his request was justified. The point is that Pacquiao and his team contradicted themselves over and over before eventually walking away from the fight altogather because of the testing issue. That alone makes Pacquiao look su****ious, not anything SR. or anybody else has acused him of.

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                • flour
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                  #288
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Thank you for all the information on HGH. What about PEDs that involve blood doping?
                  well there's no PEDS that involve blood doping, blood doping is just blood doping, you take about a pint from your own blood in advance and store that until the day of the fight to inject it back into yourself.. therefore increasing your oxygen carrying capacity by 10%, that can be detected after the fight because your REDBLOOD CELLS(RBCS) stay in the system for at least 120 days

                  however synthetic EPO does try to increase the level of RBCs release in the system that one would normally make naturally.. via the bone marrow with your natural EPO.. or is it kidney.. anyways so its kinda like doping your own blood.. its one of the two i cant remember and it can theoretically give you a higher oxygen carrying capacity therefore more endurace.. AT LEAST IN THEORY.. but there's a urinalysis for that

                  as far as detecting blood doping itself, you either look for needle markings or have a blood test at the end of a fight
                  it can measure the diffrence between MATURE RBCS and ones that r just made in the system and have been release.. its usually 50-50-50..
                  u have the immature RBCS that are released 7 days from the bone marrow and r still growing, .. the 20-80th day blooming and working RBCS and the fully mature 90-120th day old old rbcs..

                  any inequality between the three would would likely raise a flag someone is doping their blood because the redblood cells life cycle is fixed and the number between the type of RBC should be balance

                  pac agreed to the blood test at the end of the fight.

                  im not drug testing experts by the way i just read this *****
                  Last edited by flour; 04-22-2010, 04:58 PM.

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                    #289
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    I think you meant nonsensical. I mean...what does this even mean:



                    You'd been better of just asking what Imeant instead of trying to tell me. See post above.

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                      #290
                      Originally posted by flour
                      well there's no PEDS that involve blood doping, blood doping is just blood doping, you take about a pint from your own blood in advance and store that until the day of the fight to use it, that can be detected after the fight because your REDBLOOD CELLS(RBCS) stay in the system for at least 120 days

                      synthetic EPO does try to increase the level of RBCs release in the system that one would normally make naturally.. via the bone marrow.. or is it kidney.. its one of the two i cant remember and it can theoretically give you a higher oxygen carrying capacity therefore more endurace.. AT LEAST IN THEORY.. but there's a urinalysis for that

                      as far as detecting blood doping itself, you either look for needle markings or have a blood test at the end of a fight
                      it can measure the diffrence between MATURE RBCS and ones that r just made in the system and have been release.. its usually 50-50-50..
                      u have the immature RBCS that are released 7 days from the bone marrow and r still growing.. the 20-80th day RBCS and the fully mature 90-120 old rbcs..

                      any inequality between the two would show a person ****ing their red blood cell count and raised red flags


                      im not drug testing experts by the way i just read this *****
                      How would a blood test at the end of a fight show anything unless there have been prior blood tests to gauge that person's body?

                      Second, how do you know one has been blood doping?

                      I'm no expert BTW, I just read this ****.

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